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Re: Should RTL be hosted on this server?
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lugnet.general
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Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:54:15 GMT
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I'm thinking really hard on this, but I'm not sure there is any _clean_
solution other than allowing at-will cross-posting between RTL and
lugnet groups.
This is because:
A) NNTP guidelines indicate that the Newsgroup header should always be
preserved, even if there are invalid/unrecognized ng.s in it.
B) Messages coming in from RTL will be cross-posted to other usenet
ng.s.
C) Lugnet'ers will be replying to these messages.
You could ignore (A), and strip the incoming messages of everything
except Newsgroup: rec.toys.lego. And disallow cross-posted messages to
be originated from lugnet. This would limit lugnet's usenet access to
strictly RTL (not much of a limit, and not necessarily a bad thing).
Maybe I just answered my own question.
Once upon a time, lehman@javanet.com (Todd Lehman) wrote:
> > Lugnet should _not_ recognize the Newsgroups header in RTL-sourced
> > messages. If a message comes from Usenet::rec.toys.lego, it should
> > only be carried in lugnet's copy of rec.toys.lego. This will prevent
> > rogue RTL postings from spilling into other lugnet groups.
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> Let me see if I correctly understand what you're saying. In other words,
> if something originates outside of this newsserver, the newsserver should
> map/truncate
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> Newsgroups: rec.toys.foo,rec.toys.foo,comp.lang.foo,lugnet.foo
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> to simply
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> Newsgroups: rec.toys.lego
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> before injecting the article? I totally agree with that.
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> What about something posted to this server? What should the server do with
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> Newsgroups: lugnet.general,lugnet.build,rec.toys.lego
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> when it sends the message out? If the incoming filter chops apart
> crossposting, I think the outgoing filter has to also -- otherwise there
> will be of cases of people not seeing follow-ups to their own messages,
> which will be very frustrating for them.
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> Now, if both the incoming and the outgoing filters are chopping apart
> crossposting, does it mean that messages crossposted have to appear in two
> locations with actually different Newsgroups headers? (I think so.) If
> that's true, I think it's going against the NNTP specs (maybe not, but it's
> very odd anyway). It would also waste disk space because crossposting is
> accomplished with hard links on the server. Worse, a thread could actually
> split into two threads, one carrying on in newsgroup A and the other
> carrying on in newsgroup B.
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> I -think- (correct me if I'm wrong) that we have just shown that -any-
> crossposting between lugnet.* newsgroups and non-lugnet.* newsgroups is
> asking for trouble. That is, even though crossposting could potentially be
> very useful, it should't be allowed. It's not immediately obvious, but it
> can be demonstrated through logical argument. (Someone double-check my
> logic!)
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> So... Do you think it would be accepted or flamed by people if
> rec.toys.lego were carried here, but you couldn't crosspost between a
> lugnet.* group and RTL? The server would actually have to -reject- the
> message.
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Message has 1 Reply:
 | | Re: Should RTL be hosted on this server?
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| On Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:54:15 GMT, blisses@worldnet.att.net (Steve Bliss) wrote: :I'm thinking really hard on this, but I'm not sure there is any _clean_ :solution other than allowing at-will cross-posting between RTL and :lugnet groups. : :This is (...) (28 years ago, 1-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | Re: Should RTL be hosted on this server?
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| (...) excellent key point! (...) Let me see if I correctly understand what you're saying. In other words, if something originates outside of this newsserver, the newsserver should map/truncate Newsgroups: rec.toys.foo,rec.toy...lugnet.foo to simply (...) (28 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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