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Re: Should RTL be hosted on this server?
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lugnet.general
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Mon, 30 Nov 1998 19:33:04 GMT
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Todd Lehman wrote in message <3662a9e2.2109338@lugnet.com>...
> I didn't mean to suggest that it hadn't started happening...sorry for the
> confusion... What I meant to address was the question of the consequences
> in the mind as it happens -- in how people view it. If people cross that
> line _and_ they start name-calling or label-applying, then it's a big
> concern to me. I'd like to think that we are all happy to be here, but not
> too proud (in the bad sense of the word). Y'know?
I don't think the Lugnet people are of the mindset to label. Excessively.
> How about this news server? Does it attract only serious LEGO fans and
> repel those with limited interest, or does it attact both? Does it repel
> anyone (meaning, really to _repel_ with disgust more than to dishearten)?
So it's going to be carried here but not only here? My mistake. Now I see
almost no reason to argue that we shouldn't do it (as long as crossposting
is limited). Only those people who already get Lugnet are really likely to
read RTL off of Lugnet. Besides, my newsreader switches back and forth
easily.
> What if a subset of RTL message were carried here -- for example only
> messages that were pure ASCII text (no HTML/MIME/binaries) and only • messages
> that were posted by people who've gone through the Lugnet news-posting
> setup?
I think carrying RTL here would not be any worse than carrying a "clean"
RTL, which I wouldn't suggest anyway. Full RTL would be better.
> Would something like that be helpful or harmful here? Would it be helpful
> or harmful to RTL?
Harmful. It would suggest that there are elements of RTL that Lugnet
doesn't want, and that's going to tend towards accusations of elitism.
> If it did happen, one downside would be that people posting messages to RTL
> and reading RTL here only would not see all of the replies to their
> messages. It would be like killfiling everyone who hadn't gone through the
> news-posting setup here.
One more reason to carry all or none.
> Oh -- we're not talking about a server _change_ for RTL, as in carrying it
> _only_ on this server; we're talking about possibly carrying it _also_ on
> this server. It would still of course be carried on thousands of other
> newsserver around the world just as it is now.
If that's what you mean then there's almost no reason not to. See above.
> Sorry about the confusion -- no one runs RTL -- not me, not anyone -- RTL • is
> part of Usenet, which is self-regulated.
Well, since you're not moving it to Lugnet outright (sorry if I should have
seen that before), it doesn't matter.
> Bringing RTL here just would mean hosting it here as yet another newsgroup,
> but with it still being available everywhere else exactly as-is.
I see. I support that, since only Lugnet people are going to be affected by
getting to read RTL on Lugnet. All the others will still use their old
servers. Although they may have some new incentive to try Lugnet since they
can get RTL, but I doubt that, since I get the impression that most
newsreaders switch fairly easily. Maybe this is more a matter of technology
than it is community.
Jesse
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| (...) Nah, it's 100% my mistake -- I shouldn't have used the word "hosted" in the subject line -- I should have used "carried." "Should RTL be carried on this server?" (...) Aha, yes -- good point -- too much potential for accusations of elitism (in (...) (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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| (...) I didn't mean to suggest that it hadn't started happening...sorry for the confusion... What I meant to address was the question of the consequences in the mind as it happens -- in how people view it. If people cross that line _and_ they start (...) (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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