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Re: Should RTL be hosted on this server?
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lugnet.general
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Mon, 30 Nov 1998 23:05:23 GMT
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mattdm@mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) writes:
> Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote:
> > Let me see if I correctly understand what you're saying. In other words,
> > if something originates outside of this newsserver, the newsserver should
> > map/truncate
> > Newsgroups: rec.toys.foo,rec.toys.foo,comp.lang.foo,lugnet.foo
> > to simply
> > Newsgroups: rec.toys.lego
> > before injecting the article? I totally agree with that.
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> Hmmm. I'm not sure I like that. If I go to the trouble of explicitly saying
> where a message should go (and if it's somewhere that that message has
> every right to be) it seems like the server is making a mistake if it loses
> some of my instructions.
I don't think I like it either... Not because I'm morally against modifying
NNTP headers on a private server (I would be in Usenet context) but because
of the confusion which would ensue (more below).
> [...]
> Another thing to consider is messages posted via people's NNRP caching
> servers, which might contain both lugnet and public usenet newsgroups.
> If you're "splitting" cross-posted messages, you're going to get very weird
> behavior here.
Yeah, splitting is definitely right-out.
And allowing crossposting from some people and not from others is right-out.
Both lead to weird, gunky, frustrating behaviors.
So either crossposting has to be allowable for everyone or no one.
And it can't be allowable for everyone, because people who haven't gone
through the news-posting setup <http://www.lugnet.com/news/post/setup/>
can't post to any lugnet.* groups (by design).
So crossposting is between lugnet.* groups and non-lugnet.* groups is out.
But crossposting among purely lugnet.* groups is OK.
And if ever there are other Usenet groups hosted here (who knows?), then
crossposting purely among them would be OK.
Simple to explain to people? Or a can of worms?
Small enough can of worms that the disadvantages are outweighed by the
advantages?
--Todd
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Message has 3 Replies:
 | | Re: Should RTL be hosted on this server?
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| (...) One thing to consider is that if a message is cross-posted to a moderated group, it shouldn't show up in any other groups until it's been accepted in that group. LUGnet is a (lightly-and-automatically) moderated forum. It's completely (...) (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
| | | Re: Should RTL be hosted on this server?
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| (...) <some good technical stuff that I don't have the bandwidth to grok...> but nonetheless I disagree. If rtl is served from here, cross posting should be allowed for messages first posted here. Regardless of whether the poster is posting an (...) (26 years ago, 1-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
| | | Re: Should RTL be hosted on this server?
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| Once upon a time, lehman@javanet.com (Todd Lehman) wrote: [snip] (...) Anyone who *should* be cross-posting, should be able to grok this. In the sense that it takes some sense (and diplomacy) to cross-post effectively. Steve (26 years ago, 1-Dec-98, to lugnet.general)
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| | Re: Should RTL be hosted on this server?
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| (...) Hmmm. I'm not sure I like that. If I go to the trouble of explicitly saying where a message should go (and if it's somewhere that that message has every right to be) it seems like the server is making a mistake if it loses some of my (...) (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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