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Re: Its starting to happen...
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Mon, 9 Apr 2007 04:32:05 GMT
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In lugnet.color, Timothy P. Smith wrote:
> > By calling the colors "New Gray" or "Old Gray" (or whatever), you've made
> > it clear that there IS a distinction that people should be aware of.
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> The trouble with this idea is that 'old' and 'new' grey only have meaning to
> those of us who have been around long enough to know the old from the new.
> Somebody coming into the hobby post-bley won't have any idea what
> distinguishes the two.
I agree that people won't know what "old" versus "new" means, but that's
precisely the point I'm driving at. You *need* to know if you're a seller. So
you have to go find out. If you call them "New Gray" and "Old Gray", you've
successfully confused someone who doesn't know the difference, so they have to
go do their research.
I appreciate that people probably want a "clean" solution to the problem, but
the issue is that the color change is so ridiculously subtle for light gray (and
pretty darn close for brown and dark gray) that it simply *IS* confusing. Even
seasoned Lego fans who know about the difference sometimes have a hard time
telling the colors apart. The problem is confusing, so any solution is going to
be have to be confusing too.
Maybe the most accurate solution would be something like "Light Gray (2004+)"
and "Light Gray (2003-)". It's royally *ugly*, but it's a less biased solution,
if you're just trying to avoid making the "Light Gray" that we all know and love
sound old or otherwise undesireable.
To be honest, now that I think about it, I'd love for it to be called "Ugly
Light Gray" or something. There are plenty of people who buy pieces on BrickLink
for their kids as replacement parts who probably don't know and don't care about
whether they get old or new light gray. But right now, they'll pick the one that
*sounds* right, which is "Light Gray". So people who don't care are taking the
more valuable stock that AFOLs are generally coveting. Hence, by making it sound
undesireable, you're increasing the chance that ONLY people who are truly
interested are going to be purchasing it.
> Only thing that really would make sense of the mess would be to call the old
> color 'Yellowed Grey', and that doesn't seem like it would be popular.
Well, I don't think I'd call it "Yellowed", since that makes it sound as though
it were intentionally treated to be yellower. Better to call it "Yellowish Light
Grey" or "Brownish Light Gray".
But regardless of whether or not it's a popular name for the color, it really
SHOULD be renamed. No matter how you slice it, continuing to call it "Light
Gray" is just asking for trouble. You can't keep calling it that or anything
else that people would think is an obvious choice. It *has* to be confusing, or
else people who don't know about the color change will make the incorrect
assumption.
And note that this is just as much of a problem for buyers as it is for sellers.
You order a replacement part for a 2005 set, and find out that it doesn't match,
even though the part was listed as "new"? You're just as annoyed as someone who
asked for the *right* thing but got something different. It's just that in that
case the seller did everything completely correctly, so it's not so much of a
"breach of contract" type thing.
DaveE
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| (...) That's a bit of a generalization, I'd say. I can peg dark-grey vs. dark-bley every time, regardless of the lighting (well, as long as there is some, that is), and I'm very accurate with light-grey vs. light-bley under flourescent lighting and (...) (17 years ago, 9-Apr-07, to lugnet.color)
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| (...) The trouble with this idea is that 'old' and 'new' grey only have meaning to those of us who have been around long enough to know the old from the new. Somebody coming into the hobby post-bley won't have any idea what distinguishes the two. I (...) (17 years ago, 9-Apr-07, to lugnet.color)
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