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  Re: Call For Nominations: 2006 LDraw Steering Committee
 
I, Willy Tschager nominate Ross Crawford (19 years ago, 26-Jan-06, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Call For Nominations: 2006 LDraw Steering Committee
 
hmm ... no nominations so far??? Okay, I'll start with the nomination of some "youngsters" :-) I, Willy Tschager nominate Mike Heidemann (19 years ago, 26-Jan-06, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw.org down?
 
(...) And we're back. Sorry for the outage. -Orion (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw.org down?
 
(...) This was my fault. I forgat to include a file in the update I sent. The matter should be fixed soon. -Orion (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw.org down?
 
(...) Yes - a theme update was borken, and I don't know enough php to fix it. I have to wait for the maintainers to send me a correction. My apologies. Dan (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  LDraw.org down?
 
Visiting LDraw.org at 2:20 pm CET gives: Fatal error: Call to undefined function: themes_get_language() in /usr/www/users/peero.../theme.php on line 49 (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Wanted: Linux LDraw Expertise
 
(...) Ok, I'm working on a rewrite and a write for Solaris 10 as well. LDGlite is at a new rev for starters and has more options available for OpenGL/Mesa etcetera. So this may take a week or so. (19 years ago, 5-Jan-06, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Wanted: Linux LDraw Expertise
 
I'd like to update the LDraw Linux install instructions found here: (URL) a general call to any Linux users out there that can help. -Orion (19 years ago, 5-Jan-06, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw.org's December Model and Scene of the Month Winners
 
(...) Thanks to everyone who voted for me and special thanks to all those who've written software, authored parts and otherwise contributed to the world of Lego CAD. Without all your hard work I'd have to use LDD for building CAD models ;) Tim (19 years ago, 3-Jan-06, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
 
  Call For Nominations: 2006 LDraw Steering Committee
 
Per the LDraw.org Bylaws, Subsection 6.03(a), the 2005 Steering Committee hereby calls for the community to nominate individuals as candidates for the 2006 Steering Committee[1]. Please post nominations in response to this message. Nominations will (...) (19 years ago, 3-Jan-06, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.announce) ! 
 
  LDraw.org's December Model and Scene of the Month Winners
 
Congratulations to the winners of the December Model/Scene of the month contests: (URL) MOTM, Lucy Stanford Angel by David V. Winkler> (URL) SOTM, Night time on the Moscow Metro by Tim Gould> The voting for the January Model of the Month and Scene (...) (19 years ago, 3-Jan-06, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.announce, FTX)  
 
  Current Non-CA Author List
 
Here's a list of the authors who have not affirmed the CA. If you know one of these people, please have them contact us at LDraw.org. Chris Alano Christian M. Angele Emiel Visser Eric D'Aragon Fredrik Glöckner Howard Lande ISHINO Keiichiro James (...) (19 years ago, 29-Dec-05, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: MOTM / SOTM Voting For December Is Now Open
 
(...) Here's the reply I got on the pnForums regarding the use of the authid: The main reasons are all security related. When a form is secured using authid: 1) The form can't be faked by inserting things into the get/post array. 2) The form is (...) (19 years ago, 7-Dec-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: MOTM / SOTM Voting For December Is Now Open
 
(...) I'm hesitant to use a captcha since it's just one more step in a process that's supposed to be quick and easy (i.e. it makes since to us webheads but the general user will see it as a pain-in-the-rear). I do however agree that a permissions (...) (19 years ago, 7-Dec-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: MOTM / SOTM Voting For December Is Now Open
 
(...) POVray worked hard for those images. Shrinking them is telling it that you have no respect for its work. You never know, all future renders might turn out wrong because it is mad. ;) Tim (19 years ago, 6-Dec-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
 
  Re: MOTM / SOTM Voting For December Is Now Open
 
(...) I could also email Orion a 800 x 600 version of mine.... (URL) (19 years ago, 6-Dec-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
 
  Re: MOTM / SOTM Voting For December Is Now Open
 
(...) While I agree with both of you, we should keep in mind that Orion said that this is a postnuke problem. Since the whole site is done with postnuke, I don't think there's much he can do about it, unless there's some postnuke option to work (...) (19 years ago, 6-Dec-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: MOTM / SOTM Voting For December Is Now Open
 
(...) Not to mention that it's trivial to bypass it if you did want to use a bot. If we need to do bot protection, we can use a captcha (similar to the way we're protecting the full installer) when votes are actually submitted. But there's no reason (...) (19 years ago, 6-Dec-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: MOTM / SOTM Voting For December Is Now Open
 
(...) Why do everyone want to force me to work sequentially?!? :-( (the SAS booking system has even worse tasking errors) I find it very hard to beleive that there is a real need to prevent me from having multiple windows open on the same site. As (...) (19 years ago, 6-Dec-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: MOTM / SOTM Voting For December Is Now Open
 
(...) A bug is currently preventing this. You can see all the winning entries but not the current submissions (i.e. what's on the ballot). I'm working to fix this. (...) Email me more detail and we might sort out which one is yours. -Orion (19 years ago, 6-Dec-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: MOTM / SOTM Voting For December Is Now Open
 
Hey Orion, Would it be possible for people without logins to at least be able to see the entries, even if they cannot vote? I had a login at one point, but tried all my normal usernames to no avail. Bruce (19 years ago, 5-Dec-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: MOTM / SOTM Voting For December Is Now Open
 
--SNIP-- (...) OK. Cheers. I did think it was a bit strict but my reading of the rules was that it was a requirement. I'll email you a new version of my image. Thanks for the clarification. Tim (19 years ago, 5-Dec-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: MOTM / SOTM Voting For December Is Now Open
 
(...) Yes that's exactly why. The way postnuke does user authintication involves generating an authorization key. Everytime you open a form it generates an auth key and when you click submit it passes the key along with the other form data. This (...) (19 years ago, 5-Dec-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: MOTM / SOTM Voting For December Is Now Open
 
(...) 800x600 isn't a hard limit on size, your entry can be larger. This doesn't mean you can submit a 8000x6000 image but 1024x768 is fine. The same applies for the 150k limit (however the rules wording on this point seems to imply differently so (...) (19 years ago, 5-Dec-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: MOTM / SOTM Voting For December Is Now Open
 
(...) Could it be because I opened two tabs - one with each of the categories - instead of working sequentially? When I tried again now, I was allowed to vote in the SOTM category. Play well, Jacob (19 years ago, 5-Dec-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: MOTM / SOTM Voting For December Is Now Open
 
(...) Strange. I managed to vote in both (or at least I saw no errors to indicate otherwise). Tim (19 years ago, 5-Dec-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: MOTM / SOTM Voting For December Is Now Open
 
(...) It looks like I was only allowed to vote in one of the two categories. First I voted in MOTM and got to a page saying "Thank you for voting". Second I voted in SOTM and got to a (similar) page saying "You are not authorized to carry out this (...) (19 years ago, 5-Dec-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: MOTM / SOTM Voting For December Is Now Open
 
(...) I'm not complaining as I think it's a bit of a silly rule but this entry (URL) does not fit the rules I read (800x600 and <150k). Does this mean the rules have been changed and if so, can I submit a larger entry of my scene? Yours, Tim (19 years ago, 5-Dec-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: MOTM / SOTM Voting For December Is Now Open
 
Oh wait: when I logon to LDraw.org first, I get no errors. Good work! (19 years ago, 5-Dec-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: MOTM / SOTM Voting For December Is Now Open
 
(...) when i click the link I get: Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /usr/www/users/peero...pnuser.php on line 313 Good thing this is restarted again! Thumbs up! :) (19 years ago, 5-Dec-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  MOTM / SOTM Voting For December Is Now Open
 
We're pleased to announce that voting for the December 2005 Model of the Month and Scene of the Month Contests is now open. Visit the voting page to cast your vote: (URL) inform me of any errors you may encounter. -Orion (19 years ago, 5-Dec-05, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.announce)  
 
  Re: LDraw.org MOTM/SOTM Relaunch
 
(...) Thanks that's fixed now. I had to enter all the winners in to the database by hand so I expect a few mistakes that lead to broken images. -Orion (19 years ago, 30-Nov-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw.org MOTM/SOTM Relaunch
 
(...) Yep, looks good. I did notice that the January 2000 MOTM entry has a broken link for its actual image while browsing, but all the others I looked at worked fine. --Travis (19 years ago, 29-Nov-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw.org MOTM/SOTM Relaunch
 
(...) Yeah, I think so as well. I had a problems with this on other similar pages. (...) Yes, it was first implemented for the March 2004 contest. (...) The different views are for the contest ballot only. Once an entry wins, I chase one view and (...) (19 years ago, 29-Nov-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
 
  Re: LDraw.org MOTM/SOTM Relaunch
 
I get the same error when I try to click on the voting page: (URL) It might dissapear when some entries are added... Btw, the guidelines of MOTM say that we should send in ldr, mpd or dats, and you will render them from three different angles.. Is (...) (19 years ago, 29-Nov-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
 
  Re: LDraw.org MOTM/SOTM Relaunch
 
(...) You found a bug in my code (not unexpected at all considering the size of the module). I've applied a workaround and everything should be visible now. -Orion (19 years ago, 28-Nov-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw.org MOTM/SOTM Relaunch
 
(...) site decorations) with this in it when I click on the most recent winners, and two columns of this when I search past winners. I'm logged into my ldraw.org account when this happens. --Travis (19 years ago, 28-Nov-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  LDraw.org MOTM/SOTM Relaunch
 
I'm pleased to announce the relaunch of LDraw.org's MOTM/SOTM contest. After writing a few thousand lines of code, the core functionality for the new contest and voting module finished. There's not a whole lot different visually but the archive (...) (19 years ago, 28-Nov-05, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.announce) ! 
 
  LDraw.org MOTM Status
 
It's been a while since the MOTM contest has been run and I feel that I owe an explanation to those who support me and LDraw.org. As some of you may know, I'm enlisted in the US Navy. Due to a combination of work schedule change, the planning and (...) (19 years ago, 23-Nov-05, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: James Jessiman Memorial Award for 2005
 
(...) congratulations Michi! your work on MLCad deserves all the imaginable tribute I can think of and it is always a pleasure and a honor to give you a little hand. bye, w. (19 years ago, 17-Aug-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: James Jessiman Memorial Award for 2005
 
(...) Well deserved indeed! Couldn't have done it without your effort! Jeroen (19 years ago, 16-Aug-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: James Jessiman Memorial Award for 2005
 
(...) I realy don't know what to say now .... I'm overwhelmed .... I would like to say thank you to the Jessiman Family, and of course to everyone who has downloaded and used MLCad in the past. Without you the MLCad wouldn't be that what it is (...) (19 years ago, 16-Aug-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: James Jessiman Memorial Award for 2005
 
Congratulations to Michael. Without MLCad I would not be making virtual models with the LDraw format. Thank you for all your work. Tim (19 years ago, 15-Aug-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: James Jessiman Memorial Award for 2005
 
(...) And that is a very good choice! The LDRAW format plus MLCad has really spread 'virtual Lego building' around the globe. MLCad really makes *real* Lego CAD affordable and attainable for everyone! Congratulations Michael! Well deserved. (19 years ago, 15-Aug-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: James Jessiman Memorial Award for 2005
 
(...) That's super-cool! Congratulations indeed to Michael! Dave! (19 years ago, 15-Aug-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  James Jessiman Memorial Award for 2005
 
The James Jessiman Memorial Award was established by the Jessiman Family to honor an individual who has contributed to the furthering of LDraw, the DAT format, and James' memory. This year, in consultation with the Jessiman's, the LDraw.org Steering (...) (19 years ago, 15-Aug-05, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.announce) !! 
 
  Re: Do we have a plan B?
 
(...) Whew - I did get very seriously concerned on the rumours I had heard in various quarters on this topic. I think it is worth Suz making a very public Lugnet announcement to that affect to quash all the rumours and hearsay on this subject. (...) (19 years ago, 13-Aug-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Do we have a plan B?
 
(...) Hi Rosco, At Friday's Brickfest opening meeting, Suz announced that LUGNET will live, and will be administered by the gentleman that manages 1000Stein. This means that LUGNET *will* still be around, so until there are indications to the (...) (19 years ago, 13-Aug-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Do we have a plan B?
 
(...) I too hope that Lugnet continues. But I see no problem looking at options. Especially if you want time to get a solution of equal comfort :) I don't think it would hurt to investigate options, and maybe even create/install discussion software (...) (19 years ago, 11-Aug-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Do we have a plan B?
 
(...) I am also speaking for myself and not the SteerCo. I too want to stick with LUGNET. I have faith that it will survive and thrive. Change can make for upheaval, but we all deal with change in our lives all the time. I think LUGNET has a lot of (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: 2005 LDraw.org Standards Committee Vote Results
 
(...) Thanks to all for your good wishes! The LSC has not deliberated on this topic enough, but deliberation has officially started. I've made a motion that this be accepted as official. Once we have a second, we can discuss any issues that might (...) (19 years ago, 8-Aug-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: 2005 LDraw.org Standards Committee Vote Results
 
(...) c:\ongratulat.ion!!! bye, w. BTW. has the LSC ever deliberated upon the ldraw specification draft: (URL) (19 years ago, 8-Aug-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: 2005 LDraw.org Standards Committee Vote Results
 
(...) Congrats to the team! ROSCO (19 years ago, 5-Aug-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: 2005 LDraw.org Standards Committee Vote Results
 
(...) So that's what it's like to be an Ohioan! (...) =@= I have just received the following wire from my generous Daddy. It says, ''Dear Jack: Don't buy a single vote more than is necessary. I'll be damned if I am going to pay for a landslide.' (...) (19 years ago, 4-Aug-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
 
  Re: 2005 LDraw.org Standards Committee Vote Results
 
(...) Woohoo! That makes me 7.6% of the electorate. I've never felt the caress of such unbridled power before. Oh, and congratulations to all the winners. Please send me those payoffs as we agreed before I voted. Dave! (19 years ago, 4-Aug-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: 2005 LDraw.org Standards Committee Vote Results
 
(...) Congratulations to all, I'm sure you'll do an excellent job and I look forward to any new developments in LDraw. Tim (19 years ago, 4-Aug-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  2005 LDraw.org Standards Committee Vote Results
 
The 2005 LSC voting has come to an end. The 2005 LDraw.org Standards Committee is: Steve Bliss Kevin Clague Tore Eriksson Lars Hassing Orion Pobursky There were a total of 13 respondents. (19 years ago, 4-Aug-05, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: ...large project anyone?
 
(...) Hi Tim, May be you should get a try at LeoCAM, a LeoCad derivative incorporating LCD-like features: (URL) yours, - damien (19 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.lcd, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Do we have a plan B?
 
(...) Just for the record, I agree with every single word of this. Especially the hating phpBB part :) (19 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Do we have a plan B?
 
(...) Speaking for myself and not the SteerCo, I want to stick with LUGNET until the bitter end. I was dismayed when some of the other communities spun off discussion groups as I think this segregated the community further (and I hate phpBB which (...) (19 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)  
 
  Re: Do we have a plan B?
 
(...) I'd be happy just using NNTP, as long as we don't have to go with an email confirmation like we do here. That's what made me switch to almost exclusively using the web interface. ROSCO (19 years ago, 20-Jul-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Do we have a plan B?
 
(...) Gah. I really don't want to think about it, but if the Steering committee wants it, it should be reasonably easy to set up an NNTP/Mail server... And I'm sure we can find some package to put a web interface on it. (19 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Do we have a plan B?
 
guys, I was waiting to see a bounce of the on-going discussion at /admin/general about the possible shut down by october, especially after kevin has rosen the key point: (URL) really hate to ask the question and I wish from heart that it remains the (...) (19 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  LDraw Browser (was: LSC - request for defining a WORKING connection database standard)
 
(...) SNIP-SNAP (...) hi damien, I wrote that request more than a year ago! meanwhile I've made up my mind. I agree that this would be very time consuming and I got convinced that we will probably never see such a feature in any of the editor (...) (19 years ago, 19-Jul-05, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.lcd, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
 
  ...large project anyone?
 
--SNIP-- (...) I'm going to go a bit more general here so this is an answer to both parent and grandparent and probably other relatives too. -- Why does one person need to do the whole thing? We have a wealth of skills and experience in the Lego CAD (...) (19 years ago, 18-Jul-05, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.lcd, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LSC - request for defining a WORKING connection database standard
 
(...) nod, yes. (...) Add to this the fact that to get a working connection-enabled tool, you need start with (or at least develop along the way) a working GUI-based editing tool. That really narrows the field of potential (...) (19 years ago, 18-Jul-05, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.lcd, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LSC - request for defining a WORKING connection database standard
 
(...) Hi Willy, I think "working" needs a tool. 1. there is a tool 2. there is a developping database There is no chicken-egg problem: the tool always precedes the database. Would you model parts without MLCad, LeoCad or LDraw? I doubt anybody (...) (19 years ago, 18-Jul-05, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.lcd, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LSC - request for defining a WORKING connection database standard
 
(...) Note that Rosco already did take a crack at a few, including generating some images for them, and in doing so, found a problem in one I created, and caused me to decide to add fields to the connectionTypeBox, which is goodness. Thanks! (...) I (...) (19 years ago, 18-Jul-05, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.lcd, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LSC - request for defining a WORKING connection database standard
 
(...) While a connection database could be helpful, I just cant help thinking that a relationship/constrain system like solidworks and Pro/Engineer use could acheive a lot more. It could certainly be a start, then simplified - so the CAD (...) (19 years ago, 18-Jul-05, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.lcd, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LSC - request for defining a WORKING connection database standard
 
I'm not sure where this standard definition is at these days, or whether it could be used to automate what I'm doing by a clever MetaWiki robot coder, but I (and others) started capturing some connection information in BrickWiki ( (URL) ) You can (...) (19 years ago, 17-Jul-05, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.lcd, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  2005 LDraw.org Steering Committee Election Results
 
The winners of the 2005 LDraw Steering Committee Election are (in alphabetical order by last name): Steve Bliss Kevin L. Clague Tim Courtney Chris Dee Orion Pobursky Congratulations to the new LDraw Steering Committee members! -The 2004 LDraw.org (...) (20 years ago, 15-Mar-05, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw) ! 
 
  Re: LDraw.org's January Model and Scene of the Month Winners
 
(...) Sorry, I didn't have time to make/update the applicable pages but I thought it would be best if I least started the poll since it was so late in the month. I should have this rectified by the weekend. -Orion (20 years ago, 10-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
 
  Re: LDraw.org's January Model and Scene of the Month Winners
 
(...) Yeah, I noticed that too. I wanted to go back and examine the pics for the small model. Can't remember what it was now, but there was something odd about the way the studs rendered. There was either a lot of z-bleeding, or else it just ripped (...) (20 years ago, 10-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
 
  Re: LDraw.org's January Model and Scene of the Month Winners
 
So, I went and voted for next month, and then wanted to look at some again, so I went to the Contests page here: (URL) Unfortunately, it appears that that page is out of date. The archive of past winners doesn't have any 2005 entries, and the (...) (20 years ago, 10-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
 
  LDraw.org's January Model and Scene of the Month Winners
 
Congratulations to the winners of the January Model/Scene of the month contests: (URL) MOTM, Martian Surface Rover, Tom Beattie> (URL) SOTM, Showroom, Allister McLaren> The voting for the March Model of the Month and Scene of the Month contests is (...) (20 years ago, 10-Mar-05, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
 
  Re: No mention of scale in file format doc
 
(...) Well, far be it from me to argue with Science. ;) Steve (20 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Internationalization of the part library?
 
(...) Well, yeah. I guess so. I feel like they're *way* pushing the "brick with modification" envelope. OTOH, your suggestions are definitely better than leaving those two parts as the only "Castle" parts. Steve (20 years ago, 4-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: No mention of scale in file format doc
 
(...) Thanks! I'll leave that article up indefinitely, in case the subject comes up again. (Funny how my work always comes into my Lego hobby. Or is it the other way around? I can never tell. I guess I'm just a Lego person.) Stefan (20 years ago, 2-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: No mention of scale in file format doc
 
(...) I agree but Stefan gave a compelling argument for 1 LDU = 4 mm so I changed the draft proposal. -Orion (20 years ago, 2-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: No mention of scale in file format doc
 
(...) No, Orion is correct -- for LDraw. By definition, LDraw parts have no gap. 1-stud-wide bricks are 20 LDU - exactly. We *really* don't want to get into a game of trying model real-world dimensions in great detail. That it, unless someone can (...) (20 years ago, 2-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: No mention of scale in file format doc
 
(...) I beg to differ. The width of a 1x1 brick is not the same as the spacing between two stud centres. Bricks have a small gap between them, whereas studs are very accurately placed on any brick with more than 1 stud. The LDU unit should be (...) (20 years ago, 2-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: No mention of scale in file format doc
 
(...) Well, yes, and no. The bricks are not nearly as precise as the molds, but the dimensional tolerances for parts must certainly be a lot tighter than the difference between 1/64" and 0.4 mm. That difference is almost a full percent, so there is (...) (20 years ago, 2-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Internationalization of the part library?
 
(...) They're just modified plate & brick: 6072 Plate 7 x 7 with cutouts and castle crenelations 6066 Brick 4 x 8 x 2 & 1/3 with cutouts and castle crenalations -John Van (20 years ago, 1-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Internationalization of the part library?
 
(...) OK, so I exaggerated a little bit. ;-) Only reason it sticks in my mind is because of that one release where it and the 2x2 radar dish shared the same name. (20 years ago, 1-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Internationalization of the part library?
 
(...) And Lego may change the number of that 2x2 from 3003 to 53456343, but it'd still be a 3003 to us, right? (...) Yes, true. (...) LDraw numbers are designed to be unambiguous. And that unambiguity is enforced by the fact that we store our data (...) (20 years ago, 1-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Internationalization of the part library?
 
(...) Exactly. (...) Yes. (...) I wouldn't. But we would have to work around that problem anyway. (...) Exactly. Play well, Jacob (20 years ago, 1-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Internationalization of the part library?
 
(...) Both. The default for CATEGORY is the first word from the part title. Most parts have no explicit CATEGORY. I believe in all the examples given by William, the default CATEGORY is in effect. (...) I expect we'd work on updating translations in (...) (20 years ago, 1-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Internationalization of the part library?
 
(...) a. I don't think gettext prevents you from using message codes in your code, it just allows you to use whatever text you want. b. Allowing embedded messages makes it easier for programmers, because they can read what's being output. c. (...) (20 years ago, 1-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Internationalization of the part library?
 
(...) But the existing part names are the unique identifier *we* have control over. Lego may well start calling a 'Brick 2x2' 'OleKirk347' in the next version of the moulds, but it's still a 'Brick 2x2', right? There's also the value of at least a (...) (20 years ago, 1-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Internationalization of the part library?
 
(...) Apparently my impression wasn't quite correct here. (...) Yes. But that would require the programs to be able to work directly on whatever translation format we decide to use. And it would inflate the parts library updates with approximately (...) (20 years ago, 1-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Internationalization of the part library?
 
(...) Devil's advocate for a sec, were those NAME changes or CATEGORY changes? (...) That was my thinking too, but I have no stats to back it up. (...) To Jacob's point about keeping changes in sync, which I agree is a valid concern and would need (...) (20 years ago, 1-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Internationalization of the part library?
 
(...) If only we knew what to do with that lousy crenellated wall topper, we could get rid of the Castle group altogether... (...) FYI: the Boat Stud is now Dish 2 x 2 -- both Peeron and LDList will still match on Boat Stud. And it was officially (...) (20 years ago, 1-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Internationalization of the part library?
 
(...) Mmmmm!!! Rock pieces (BURPs, LURPs, et al) recently became panels ... Castle walls also are in the process of becomming panels ... I no longer know where Boat Stud is as it moves so often ... And that's just the first three off the top of my (...) (20 years ago, 1-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Internationalization of the part library?
 
(...) Done. :-) (now we just have to see what the rest of the LSC says to it) (...) I have worked both with code-based and with string-based lookup (not professionally, though) the last ten-fifteen years. Both methods have their benefits and (...) (20 years ago, 1-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Internationalization of the part library?
 
(...) Peeron/LDraw/Partsref <-> BL isn't simple, because the part numbers are NOT consistant. AFAIK, the only way to actually resolve that is to build a proper translation table, which is what I think BrikTrak uses. (20 years ago, 1-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Internationalization of the part library?
 
(...) From a technical perspective I agree with Larry that the part number looks like the best key, and that the current part name is just one instance of an international language set of names. If we percieve peeron and and bricklink as countries, (...) (20 years ago, 1-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Internationalization of the part library?
 
(...) Thanks! Looking forward to it! I sort of don't follow the subtlety of the issue with lookup (GNU gettext?), but it seems to me from the outside that the part number ought to be the lookup key rather than one version of the part name. At least, (...) (20 years ago, 1-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Internationalization of the part library?
 
(...) It seems like there is general agreement that it would be a good idea, if the LSC creates a standard for i18n in LDraw parts names, so I will post a proposal to the LSC ASAP. Play well, Jacob (20 years ago, 1-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  2005 LDraw Steering Committee Election is open
 
The 2005 LDraw.org Steering Committee election is now open. To vote, please visit (URL) and log in with your user account. Next, visit the announcement on LDraw.org here: (URL) the Ballot link. You may vote for up to five candidates. Please cast (...) (20 years ago, 1-Mar-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw) ! 
 
  Re: Internationalization of the part library?
 
(...) Personally, I agree. That said, if the LSC decided that internationalization is not a goal then some consideration of how to proceed would be needed, but I would tend to want to follow their recommendation, it's their charter to own decisions (...) (20 years ago, 28-Feb-05, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)


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