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  Future extension of dat files?
 
Hy, some time ago I've been told by somebody that extensions of dat files should be changed to something else. Can somebody remember what it was - and whats the actual status - I didn't hear about it since then... Michael (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Codes for New Colors (was: Sand Red Bricks)
 
[In a brilliant blaze of thread micro-management, I've XPOSTed and FUTed lugnet.cad.dev] (...) I can't say anything's decided(1), but I went over the new colors and the color chart, and I've listed some suggestions below. Let me know what you think. (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  Absent for a while
 
Due to classes and other things taking up a lot of my time, I've temporarily stopped working on my CAD program and other Lego pursuits. I've also turned off the LUGNET news-by-mail because I am getting too many messages. Perhaps in a few months I (...) (23 years ago, 24-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: "Tore's" boxes, special file naming instructions
 
(...) Currently MLCad takes files from the following directories in the order shown below: 1) BFC\P 2) BFC\Parts 3) P 4) Parts 5) Models 6) Current directory (that is the directory where a project has been loaded from or saved to). All other (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: "Tore's" boxes, special file naming instructions
 
I looked in the primitves directory and saw that some of the files in the 48 directory had the same filename as those in the P directory. How does Ldraw/Mlcad differentiate between these files? If 3001.box is renamed to 3001.dat, and I place it in (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: "Tore's" boxes, special file naming instructions
 
Tore: (...) Except that the extensions "box" and "min" don't seem to correspond to the two concepts, it might be a good idea to identify the simplification level based in the file name extension. But since the file format is (I assume) still the (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  Re: LDA2001: My first working animation script
 
... and the result is... (URL) Kb Mpeg, [pov 800x600, AA 0.3], 256 colors nearest color optimized octree, DivX Mpeg-4, Quality=900) Each frame took 3-3½ minutes on my PII-450/128 Models are: Police Car from Datsville by Jonathan Wilson 2000 Beetle (...) (23 years ago, 10-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  LDA2001: My first working animation script  [DAT]
 
Progress report: The script below is now being correctly compiled. Remarks: Three object are created: Scene(Scene.dat), Bubbla(Beetle.dat), and Polis(Police.dat) At the first frame, Bubbla is at [-50 -28 100] and Polis is at [50 -28 50] Then, Polis (...) (23 years ago, 10-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDGLite bug report (and POV preview question)
 
I like that idea. If the default view is what you said (the [0.707104 ...] matrix), then a projection matrix of 1.4142,0,0,0,1.2196,...171,1.2247 in front of it would give the same effect as the original LDRAW default matrix. I've wanted to pull out (...) (23 years ago, 7-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDGLite bug report (and POV preview question)
 
(...) How about if we just separate the shearing "oblique" projection transformation from the underlying modeling transformation? I'd be happy using this for the default matrix. 0.707104,0,0.707104,...5,0.612372 I think it's a 45 degree spin and a (...) (23 years ago, 6-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDGLite bug report (and POV preview question)
 
Should we change the default view to be something that is (what is the word..."only made from rotation matricies and does not produce shearing"? det(A)=1?). It bugs me that the default is flawed that way, although there are some other (...) (23 years ago, 6-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDGLite bug report (and POV preview question)
 
(...) I'm not sure if I *want* to do this, I was just asking if it would be useful. I asked because I already added -cc and -ca (not sure what -cla is) to ldglite so I could move the camera enough to test my recent bug fixes. Since I tend to add (...) (23 years ago, 6-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDGLite bug report (and POV preview question)
 
Don: (...) I have updated the "Getting started: On Linux" page to reflect this: (URL) have also created a page with instructions for people who only need to update their LDGLite installation: (URL) pages will be updated whenever Don reminds me of a (...) (23 years ago, 5-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  Re: A beginning - Lugsville!
 
(...) Point taken. (...) I was hoping to use all DAT code, but am unable to. POVray's looking kind of hard inn terms of achieving the results I'm looking for. So, I'm thinking of throwing away the idea of using terrain, except as a backdrop. I could (...) (23 years ago, 5-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDGLite bug report (and POV preview question)
 
Don Heyse wrote... (...) ;-) (...) If you want to make a previewer for finding a good camera setting you should adjust the camera location and look_at positions. When done, specify these two coordinates to L3P using -cc and -cla. As mentioned at the (...) (23 years ago, 4-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Animation - LDraw Object Classes - help needed!
 
(...) Cool! I'd love to. (...) I see your point. It seems like LDObject won't be the highest ancestor class anyway. I plan to define LDraw Camera and POV camera differently (but I might change my mind) Is it possible to let a compiled and (...) (23 years ago, 5-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: A beginning - Lugsville!
 
(...) I think the name "Lugsville" sort of suggests that it is an "official" LUGNET thing. In that way, I think it is a bit inappropriate. But it's really up to yourself to decide! (...) Are you planning to do this in DAT code exclusively, or in (...) (23 years ago, 4-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDGLite bug report (and POV preview question)
 
I'm not sure if I mentioned this yet, but the pesky ldglite bugs with MESA perspective mode have been fixed and a new version is up on the sourceforge. I still have to incorporate the new ldlite 2.3 bugfix for large MPD files, but it works for now (...) (23 years ago, 4-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  Re: Pier 17 (Was: A beginning - Lugsville!)
 
Both sound good and I'm looking forward to seeing them. Gary Jacob Sparre Andersen <sparre@nbi.dk> wrote in message news:3B949EF2.7EA36F...@nbi.dk... (...) (23 years ago, 4-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  LDLite 2.3 released.
 
Version 2.3 of LDLite is now up at: (URL) LDLite 2.3 renders town.mpd correctly. 1) The -W bug is now fixed. -W3 no longer generates 5-wide lines. -W2 and -W3 now generate 3-wide lines. 2) The option "-D1" will suppress bitmap generation in (...) (23 years ago, 4-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  A beginning - Lugsville!
 
Hey, I'm in the process of building a new Datsville-like object. It's called Lugsville (please, if you've already cornered that name, let me know. I'll change it). And, I'd really like to incorporate 3d terrain into the model. So, if anyone knows of (...) (23 years ago, 3-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  Re: Animation - LDraw Object Classes - help needed!
 
(...) creating the framework for LDraw Object Classes (...) other, easier, more flexible, better suited or (...) Interesting. Eventually I want to include an animation scripting feature in the CAD program I'm developing (which happens to be written (...) (23 years ago, 3-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Animation - LDraw Object Classes - help needed!
 
So, finally I have made all the preparations to begin the work with creating the framework for LDraw Object Classes aimed towards animation scripting. My inspiration comes from the Borland Delphi world, but I'm open for other, easier, more flexible, (...) (23 years ago, 3-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw Filter: New Version
 
Three minor bug fixes... New version, same location but 209 Kb zip. (...) (23 years ago, 2-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  LDraw Filter: New Version
 
New version, the only function still disabled is highlight. I think this version is quite useful. Just remember: the program filters *out* only those lines you select to filter out. If no filters are active, the Add button will add all lines to (...) (23 years ago, 2-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: brick 1x2 with one two sideways locking fingers on end.
 
(...) Sorry about that. I didn't know that the part had already been done :/ it looked fairly easy though so i'd though i'd take a crack at it. it would be nice if they'd come out with a new update for the Ldraw parts library soon. (23 years ago, 1-Sep-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw FilTEr
 
Thank you, Micheal. I am not following you completely, but never mind. I'm glad you like it. Hopefully, this weekend I'll have the time to improve to filTEr, with separate output files and more. Thanks, /Tore (...) (23 years ago, 31-Aug-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw FilTEr
 
Man, this thing is great! You'll be able to create completely hollow objects, filter out parts that you want to use or ones you don't want to use, export them to already-existing realtime rendering programs like Quake or Unreal or your favorite (...) (23 years ago, 31-Aug-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDGLite bug report (yes, one more)
 
Wow, that looks great. Don't really know what else to say... just wanted you to know that people were paying attention, and were interested in your results. :-) -Andy Lynch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Gyugyi" <paul@gyugyi.com> To: (...) (23 years ago, 29-Aug-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDGLite bug report (yes, one more)
 
Yes, I'm trying various shadings. This one looks promising: (URL) trees in the upper left stand out well. I really like the shading on the water tower, and the green roof on the yellow house looks nice. Shading is done by taking the dot product of (...) (23 years ago, 29-Aug-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: idea for next version, include ttore boxes
 
(...) Oooops, I got mixed up. (...) What would you use this for? (...) Cool! That's like the "commecial zoning" effect in Sim City. (...) You can always leave the top-most brick with studs on top. Thanks, later, Mike (23 years ago, 28-Aug-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  RE: LDGLite bug report (yes, one more)
 
(...) variations? (Fade to white, or fade to gray, or desaturate as you go back) --Bram Bram Lambrecht bram@cwru.edu (URL) (23 years ago, 28-Aug-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDGLite bug report (yes, one more)
 
I added some depth-queuing to LDLite, with a simple fade-to-black as you get away from the camera, in the hopes that it would let the green trees stand out from the green baseplates: (URL) anyone find this useful? -gyug (...) (23 years ago, 28-Aug-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDGLite bug report (yes, one more)
 
I did some work on LDLite this weekend. An image of an LDLite rendered town.mpd is at: (URL) image used the -fr option to turn off lines, and has ldlite shading turned on, so it looks a little different than the others. Rendering time was 828 (...) (23 years ago, 27-Aug-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Error in Technic axle extender?
 
(...) Yes. This has been discussed before. The original version of the part looks like the one in the library, while the new one is the way you describe. I have a few of the original axle extenders from 8857 Street Chopper. BTW, lugnet.cad.dat.parts (...) (23 years ago, 26-Aug-01, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Sorting parts by location
 
Does anyone know if there exists a utility to sort parts in a model file by their "cut plane" location? I know I can sort by X Y or Z values but what I am actually interested in is sorting using a cut plane that is perpendicular to the eye vector in (...) (23 years ago, 25-Aug-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw FilTEr
 
Currently I am _trying_ to make a microfig or nanofig model the "Defiant" from Star Trek Deep Space 9. I do it in MLCad, not for real. I started with the bridge and started building somewhere in the middle. Then I put parts on top and under the (...) (23 years ago, 23-Aug-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.models)
 
  Re: LDraw FilTEr
 
(...) Yes, that's right. I forgot to remove the code that referred to box replacements. (...) It's about as far as I've reached. You can change color of the objects in all selected lines and save by overwriting the input file. (...) Yes, just (...) (23 years ago, 23-Aug-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw FilTEr
 
Hi Tore, I get "Cannot open file C:\LDRAW\boxes.lst" when I start it. Then it runs but the only thing I can seem to do is selecting and unselecting lines. Is it possible to filter all parts out that share the same y coordinate? Greetingz... Sjaacko (23 years ago, 23-Aug-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw FilTEr
 
First version: A lot of features still grayed-out. But you can: * filter x, y, z, color, line type (URL) (200 Kb) Some feedback, please! Is it worth working on? /Tore (...) (23 years ago, 22-Aug-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)


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