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(...) OK, I've generated a complete translation list, matching up as many parts from Anton's library to LDraw as possible. I also worked through the colors/textures/materials, making as many matches as I could. I've started creating POV-Ray include (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jun-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Steve Bliss wrote: <snip> (...) I like this quite a bit and if Lar's implements the request I made for L3P to wrap all the part defines in #IFNDEF statments, then these files should be drop in and go --Orion (21 years ago, 25-Jun-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) Hmm, that would be true - if the wrappers use the same names as L3P generates (so the object for the 2x4 brick would be named 3001_dot_dat). Right now, they don't - the names are like ar_3001. Even so, changing '3001_dot_dat' to (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jun-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) [snip] (...) Hi Steve, Have you contacted Anton about this? He's not a bad guy and is willing to help where needed. Jeroen (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) [snip stuff about ldraw-to-Anton] (...) Not yet -- this project's been back-burnered for a bit. I finished making the wrapper files, and got distracted. Steve (21 years ago, 12-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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Just to drop in my 2 cents, I think putting them into one file would be better. Also, could you put up a quality comparison chart? Three shots of a couple of parts, each, so we can compare? Thanks, Mike (21 years ago, 15-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) I'm torn - using a single file in POV-Ray is definitely more convenient, and 750 definitions don't seem to be too much overhead for the parsing engine to chew on. But for (later) updates to the wrapper library, individual files would work (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) I think the 1:1 aproach would be better. Using one main include file might be convienient, but makes it difficult for many authors to contribute to. (...) Something like this? (URL) do not use the part files from there, most of them have been (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) That's it. Do you think you could add to that? I guess a POV file could be made that would automatically generate a gallery. I'll have to look into that. -Mike (21 years ago, 17-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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"Michael Horvath" <mhorvath2161@juno.com> wrote in message news:HI33p4.1w9H@lugnet.com... (...) Isn't very flexible, is it? (...) couple of (...) Before you go and render, think of this: LDraw: rectangles and triangles that make up lego parts, (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) Hmm, thinking more about this, it could be done with individual files, and then a single master file that includes all the individual wrapper files. The master file could be auto-generated whenever the wrapper-library is updated. That would be (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) [snip comparision of libraries] Many parts look about the same, whether their code came from LDraw or Anton's library. Also, there are a number of small differences between the versions of the some parts in the two libraries. Sometimes Anton's (...) (21 years ago, 18-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) I'm not certain if I agree with you here... ;-) The part I measured (and digitized) is one that came with my 6981 Aerial Intruder and has the dimensions that I used. (...) Yes, in the past I decided to do the decorated elements as (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) I'm here now... :-) Greetz, Anton (21 years ago, 20-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) I partially agree here, it may not be very flexible but it is better for file systems that use minimal cluster sizes... ;-) (...) Jeroen, I know what I want, and that is renders that look good. Of course us still not having an MLCAD-like (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) For those reading in, non-hollow parts make for far better and more realistically looking transparent pieces! Greetz, Anton (21 years ago, 20-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) Do files have to be named explicitly or is there a notion of includepath or classpath like searching in POV? If so... Would it be possible to combine approaches? Have the base parts all in one file but each release of revs is in another, and (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) YES YES YES! Cool stuff, Paul. C'mon guys open your eyes and look at this: (URL) helmet (very good part writing I must say, I couldn't have done it) 500+ lines. And by adding (just) 36 lines of POV code one gets a real rounded helmet. Now, (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) Jeroen, GeoCities doesn't allow deep links to files. You'll have to link to an html page with the image on it. I've had the same problem. -Mike (21 years ago, 20-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) Hmm. I'll haul out some of mine and recheck the LDraw part. (...) Alright, I'll grab some of those 500 model files, and see what's up. Steve (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) For one, I'm not keen on putting POV-Ray code in LDraw part files. Besides complicating the review/certification process, it also ties the LDraw library to one specific renderer, in an official way. Steve (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) AFAIK, they have to be explicitly included. (...) Not really, because then there'd be an issue of search order order, too much complication. (...) I prefer to keep it simple -- either one big file with everything in it, or one master file that (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) Good point. As I wrote in another post, we could keep the individual part files on a dev server, and distribute a single combined file. Or store all the individual definitions in a SQL database. (...) Ack! I better post my work soon, or it (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) Perhaps things like this could be included in the category/list of other .dat libraries that will some day be on LDraw.org. People could go to the respective sites to download POV enhanced parts. Just my $0.02 --Ryan (URL) (21 years ago, 25-Jul-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) What did you come up with...? (...) More and more model files are becoming available as we speak... ;-) Even a few new ones... Greetz, Anton (21 years ago, 6-Sep-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) Well, first, lego parts get really dusty when they're left out. They're like little ABS dust magnets. But it looks like the part in LDraw is the right size. At least, it mates up with part 2409(.dat) nice and clean. Maybe they're both wrong? (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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