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| | | Hey all, in my anime lacking frustration, I went to the movie rental shop and checked out their anime section, the only anime besides Gundam, escaflowne, and dragon ball(z) that I have heard of was patlabor (Mladen mentions it often) and appleseed (...) (23 years ago, 25-Aug-01, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Travis Matheson
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| | | | | (...) I remember that name, but it doesn't stand out for me, so chances are I didn't think that much of it. Seen so much that it sometimes blurs into one. IMHO the best anime over the last few years was Neon Genesis: Evangelion. Involved story, (...) (23 years ago, 24-Aug-01, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Borislav Marinov
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| | | | | | (...) If you are looking for good mech action just check out the first four and last four episodes of Gundam Wing. I was a hardcore Star Wars fan for a decades: I have seen the trilogy hundredths of times (literally) and own hundredths of dollars (...) (23 years ago, 25-Aug-01, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | | (...) Errrm, what? Star Trek came first, but isn't really comparable to BG, since ST is so capital ship based. I don't recall any BG episodes where cap ships duke it out. Star Wars was before BG, so if anything spawned anything else, BG was spawned (...) (23 years ago, 25-Aug-01, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Borislav Marinov
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| | | | | | (...) Ha?! As a Grand Admiral I assume you have also seen all of the shows I am referring above. There are capital ship fights in BG and I am also positive that it came before SW (but that is irrelevant). What I am referring is about the style of (...) (23 years ago, 26-Aug-01, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | | (...) Yes, and I watched some of them before you were born. :^) (...) Really? Which episodes? I only remember lots of Vipers zooming around. I also only recall Base Stars closing distance enough to spew Raiders at the rag tag fugitive fleet. There's (...) (23 years ago, 26-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.space, lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Travis Matheson
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| | | | | | | (...) I know that the Minbari's shuttles had what looked like 4 engines so I would presume that they are using standard propulsion methods, and one would suspect that the fighters are the same. I don't know about the cruisers but the White Star (...) (23 years ago, 26-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.space, lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Jordan Greer
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| | | | | | | | The Minbari, and to a lesser extent the Centauri, are suspected of using drives that interact with the Zero Point Field (don't have time to explain the ZPF right now), thus enabling them to use a reactionless drive. Your're wrong about the (...) (23 years ago, 27-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.space, lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Jordan Greer
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| | | | | | | Yes, B5 ships actually obey the laws of physics by accelerating and deccelerating. Unlike 'Trek. In ST the ships always act like atmospheric vehicles, namely in the manner that they don't have to deccelerate/reaccelerate to turn around. (23 years ago, 26-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.space, lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Kyle D. Jackson
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| | | | | | | | (...) Not quite sure what you mean here. A ship could fly in space with similar flightpaths to how it can fly in an atmosphere. Nothing says that it can't. If you want to execute a smooth sweeping turn like in the atmosphere, you need only have (...) (23 years ago, 27-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.space, lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Steve Lane
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| | | | | | | | (...) With a system that can counteract an almost instantaneous accelaration to Warp nine I think it can cope with a little 180 degree spin in an instant. Steve (B5 is a lot better than Star Trek) (23 years ago, 29-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.space, lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Jeff Stembel
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| | | | | | | (...) Yep, the human fighters (Starfuries) require manuevering jets to change direction and speed. The only other race I know offhand how they operate are the Minbari's, which use gravity generators. I'm not sure if they have them on their fighters (...) (23 years ago, 26-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.space, lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Rick Hallman
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| | | | | | | (...) Yeah, B5 fighters Starfuries have thrusters on the front and sides, allowing omni-directional movement. They used the slide factor alot for combat (Fighter trajectory going the oppsite direction of the fighter). And in reply to Jeff's comment (...) (23 years ago, 26-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.space, lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Borislav Marinov
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| | | | | | Wow, quite a few replies here! Let me try to explain my theory in a different way and you can tell me if you guys agree with me or not? "Mech combat are not compatible with non-mech space combat." or rephrased: "Mechs fight with mechs and they can (...) (23 years ago, 27-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.space, lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | | | | space/mecha combat theories... (was Re: Gasaraki 1, any good?) —Geordan Hankinson
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| | | | | | | In starfox, there is a level where you fly around in space and kill robot/mech things, I dunno if that's what you mean though. But I think (from a non-anime oriented perspective) that mecha could easily be pitted agains't spacecraft and have a (...) (23 years ago, 27-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.space, lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Jeff Stembel
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| | | | | | | (...) Sure they can co-exist, if the creator of the show wishes them to. :) Now, if you want TV show/movie examples, try Macross/Robotech, Nadesico, and Gundam. But since it is all fantasy anyway, anything a creator deems possible, is, well, (...) (23 years ago, 27-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.space, lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | | (...) I don't see how this question is even debatable, because you're talking about fictional technologies, most of which disobey all current known laws of physics. You might be able to debate specific cases, but it's still extremely difficult to do (...) (23 years ago, 27-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.space, lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —A. Mark Wilburn
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| | | | | | (...) Ah, ok, I was going to bring up the reference for him ("The Livin Legend", with the late Lloyd Bridges playing Commander Cain). Yes, he took the Pegasus with 2 vipers (Richard Hatch and Dirk Benedict, who else?) point blank against 3 base (...) (23 years ago, 29-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.space, lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | | | (...) Not at the time. That realignment came much later. LFB (23 years ago, 30-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.space, lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Mladen Pejic
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| | | | | (...) Ooo! You lucky dog! Found Gasaraki on your first try! ;-) (...) Knowing this, expect to see a lot of political talk. Patlabor 1 & 2 were filled with great characters, and interesting plot. (...) I have yet to see Gasaraki, but from what I've (...) (23 years ago, 25-Aug-01, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Geordan Hankinson
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| | | | | | snip (...) Well that's good, movie's without a plot but lot's of action stink IMO (ex. MI2) (...) I'm 5 min. in right now, their's an awesome mecha drop ship at the begining, very similar to your's, the four mechs are in pairs side by side on a set (...) (23 years ago, 25-Aug-01, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Chris Mitchell
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| | | | | (...) Well, I'd heard that it was highly political, and bore more than a few similarities to Neon Genesis Evangelion. (Anything as good as Eva is bound to be influential. ;)) The mecha ARE highly realistic... unlike Gundam and Macross (and don't get (...) (23 years ago, 25-Aug-01, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Geordan Hankinson
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| | | | | | snip (...) how's this? (URL) This what you're looking for? -Geordan- (...) (23 years ago, 25-Aug-01, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Chris Mitchell
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| | | | | | (...) ... actually yeah. Shinden, that was it... Ok maybe you don't have to paint it. All I need now is a credit card... -_ - (23 years ago, 26-Aug-01, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Geordan Hankinson
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| | | | | | (...) Well yeah, you would probably want to paint in some weathering, like some aluminum around the sharper edges or something. Other wise, (IMO) it starts looking too plastic, like if you assemble any unpainted model kit. This kit looks pretty good (...) (23 years ago, 26-Aug-01, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Patrick Justison
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| | | | | I have v.1 - v.4. The story is pretty good, the mecha are cool, although not very diverse. Some pretty good dvds if you can get them for less then retail. Pat J (...) (23 years ago, 25-Aug-01, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Jeff Stembel
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| | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Geordan Hankinson
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| | | | | Thanks to everyone who replied! (you know who you are) I'm *still* not done, had to cut it short a little ways in, but I'll finish it today. Sounds like a good movie, but I think I ought to go searching again for more, one influence isn't as good as (...) (23 years ago, 25-Aug-01, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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| | | | | Re: Gasaraki 1, any good? —Jeff Stembel
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| | | | (...) Actually, ADV is just the US Licensor (FTR, Patlabor 2 was licensed by Manga Ent.), and had nothing to do with the actual production of those shows itself. :) (...) I have the first two discs, and it is pretty good. The mecha designs are cool, (...) (23 years ago, 25-Aug-01, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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