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    L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —Lars C. Hassing
   As you may know I have been cooking on this L3 program for more than two years now (not that this tells anything about its size and quality ;-) However, I believe L3 now has so many useful features that many of you (especially part authors) also (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —Michael Lachmann
     (...) understanding - is there any windows 3D Library used or is it your own creation? Maybe I could take over some ideas from your progi? I think it would be cool in MLCad too. Again, good job! Michael (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —Tore Eriksson
     Shame on you, Lars! It's your fault I was late from lunch today! I just had to try it... My first impression: It's a winner! /Tore (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —Jeremy H. Sproat
     (...) analysis. It dumps all kinds of diagnostic data on the model. It gives my Tantive IV all kinds of pretty colors. Lars, after I get over how amazingly cool this app is, I'm gonna flog you with a lasagna noodle for keeping it away from us for so (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —Chris Dee
     (...) be a great help for checking new parts. Chris (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —Anders Isaksson
     Lars C. Hassing skrev i meddelandet <950263932.570892@ns.cci.dk>... (...) It's not fair! Keeping that gem for yourself for two years :-) Very nice, Lars. It's the first .DAT renderer I've seen that can (really) be used on my large house/castle (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —Steve Bliss
     (...) the zoom setting. LDLite takes some 80 seconds on the same model. And I can swing it around to any angle with my mouse. Wow. Thank you so much for publishing this. The choice of yellow as the edge-color for red was unexpected... Steve (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —Bram Lambrecht
     (...) some :) 1) I like to be able to see how a model is put together--is there a way to render the file part by part? 2) Can I turn off error messages? For example, it's annoying that it tells me I only have 65536 colors every time I start the (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —Paul Gyugyi
     Excellent program! I just spent 10 minutes holding down "Ctrl" and making a little spaceship do barrel rolls. Zoooom! Nice job on the transparent parts. -gyug (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —Fredrik Glöckner
     I'm stunned speechless! Wow. You may consider restricting the views to be -- uhm, what's the correct term again? -- isometric? When starting out with an oblique view and rotating with the mouse, you may end up with a view that is "skewed". I think (...) (25 years ago, 13-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad)
    
         Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —Jeremy H. Sproat
     (...) I'm beginning to suspect that Lars is stunned speechless by the reception his program just got! :-, (...) This happens only (that I've seen) if you use the "Ldraw View" view, which is slightly skewed in and of itself. If you use any of the (...) (25 years ago, 13-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —John Jensen
     Hey!! This is almost exactly what I've been looking for:) Great, very nice with the "rotate with mouse" feature. Some suggestions: When exporting to POV it could be nice to export the view in the window (or am I doing something wrong?) How about a (...) (25 years ago, 14-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —Lars C. Hassing
     Thank you all for the many nice comments. Here follows replies to several questions: Michael Lachmann wrote... (...) Thanks Michael. L3Lab is built on MFC (linked statically), it hasn't any OpenGL, DirectX or other libraries. It is written in C/C++, (...) (25 years ago, 15-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad)
    
         FAQ update (Was: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer) —Jacob Sparre Andersen
      Lars: (...) Done! (URL) well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL: (URL) > -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 15-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad)
    
         Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —Selçuk Göre
       (...) <snip> Not at all..:-) People who creates amazing tools and shares them with others have always a place at my heart. (...) Not at all again..:-) Here is just some recommendations (about your viewer) * How about adding a "panning" function? I (...) (25 years ago, 15-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad)
    
         Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —Steve Bliss
      (...) Just don't get bogged down in the cleanup! Hey, I released the LDAO source code. And that's some of the ugliest code I've ever coded. (...) L3Lab will definitely do a lot to help with parts-inspection. Even just being able to rotate with the (...) (25 years ago, 15-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad)
    
         Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —Fredrik Glöckner
      (...) I think it would be useful to have the one-liner as well. Fredrik (25 years ago, 15-Feb-00, to lugnet.cad)
    
         Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —Steve Bliss
     (...) Maybe not, but the red/green display is cool. I look forward to support for BFC meta-commands. Steve (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.cad)
    
         Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —Lars C. Hassing
     (...) - and I look forward to the settlement of the BFC definition :-) The red/green shows the orientation of the tris/quads. /Lars (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.cad)
    
         Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —Steve Bliss
     (...) I feel we're at the point where we need a testbed application, to see the specification in action. Most of the important primitives are wound properly (that is, no bow-tie quads) or are close to it. Ditto for the basic bricks. These files just (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —John VanZwieten
    Lars C. Hassing <lch@ccieurope.com> wrote in message news:950263932.57089....cci.dk... (...) myself. (...) issues (...) Wow! I finally got around to trying this out. It's just amazing. Anyone care to hazard a guess at how long it took to render all (...) (25 years ago, 1-Mar-00, to lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —Steve Bliss
   (...) [rendering time snipped, just in case you haven't read John's message yet.] WOW. That is incredible. (...) Ooo, yeah. That would be good. (...) Not right now. For LDLite, the -P command-line parameter activates Polling. In L3Lab, it (...) (25 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —Steve Bliss
     Correction to prior post: if you are actually *editing* anything, you *must* open the COD*.* file in L3Lab, not the EDI*.* file. Steve (...) (25 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —Lars C. Hassing
     Steve Bliss wrote... (...) GyuGyi shouldn't have chosen -P, as Windows uses -p,-P,/p,/P for printing e.g. when you drag a DAT file to the printer. L3Lab doesn't support printing (I know I forgot to turn the menus off :-) so I *could* use the -P (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.cad)
    
         Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —Steve Bliss
     (...) Sure, I can fix up LDAO. Actually, I think I'll remove the "Editor Renderer Tool" completely, and provide an option to use either LDLite or L3Lab as the viewer for editing. (...) Doh! Well, that's a lot easier than the gyrations I was going (...) (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: L3Lab - yet another LDraw viewer —Robert Farver
   (...) (URL) those who didn't catch that reference, it's from The Princess Bride. A great movie with some hilarious lines. Rob +---...---+ | Rob Farver - rfarver@rcn.com | | (URL) | | (URL) | +---...---+ (25 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.cad)
 

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