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Re: lugnet.announce.moc [was: Re: lugnet.market.mess]
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lugnet.admin.suggestions
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Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:21:44 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.suggestions, William R. Ward writes:
> "Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> writes:
> > .announce.moc was CREATED to keep traffic out of .announce. It basically
> > (due to the technology) fails to do that for web users. Point your browser
> > at .announce and you see announce.moc traffic as well. Simple as that... it
> > fails to keep traffic out of announce. Yes yes you can get a 'no subgroups'
> > view but it's not the default. If we are going to reorg things, reorg them
> > so that this is not a problem.
> >
> > I'll go into more depth later if that doesn't help clear up my point.
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> I believe the main reason was not so much to avoid that problem, as to
> keep MOC's from crowding other announcements out of the "top stories"
> sidebar on the LUGNET home page. I understand that lugnet.announce
> posts are given automatically higher weight than any other messages,
> assuming the same amount of highlight/spotlight.
While that may or may not be true, it's not the reason I was plumping for it
at the time. My reasons were as I outlined, to keep dissonance down.
But we digress. If I have X type things and Y type things and X is not a
kind of Y and Y is not a kind of X, I need to have two distinct places to
talk about X and Y, the way LUGNET technology works. Talking about Y in a
subgroup of where I talk about X means the X group is polluted with Y.
Talking about X in a subgroup of where I talk about Y means the Y group is
polluted with X.
It's that simple, whether you find my concrete example(1) flawed or not.
Flogging and operations/theory are two vastly different things, neither is a
kind of the other, and no tacking of new groups as subgroups of existing
ones will suffice to completely clean up the problem.
1 - MOCs are not a kind of "announcement" and announcements are not a kind
of "MOC". The resulting discussions are vastly different.
++Lar
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