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Re: Suggested Change in Charter for ALL Lugnet Theme Groups.
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lugnet.admin.general
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Tue, 7 Mar 2000 22:26:57 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Scott Arthur writes:
> In lugnet.admin.general, Jeff Johnston writes:
> > In lugnet.admin.general, Scott Arthur writes:
> > > In lugnet.admin.general, Shiri Dori writes:
> > > > Auction posts of any kind are not welcome in theme groups, and by changing
> > > > this, even slightly, you'll cause even more grey areas then are now. Your
> > > > suggested rules and restrictions will be very easy to go around • (intentionally
> > > > or otherwise) and will cause even more confusion and friction than there is
> > > > now.
> > >
> > > In what way?
> >
> > 1. It will create more work for the admin council who by your suggestion
> > have to preapprove these auction posts.
I notice you choose to ignore this objection. I'lla dd that it also
creates a lot more work for Todd.
What exactly is the benefit of this suggestion? Very little as far as I
can see. It creates a method for a small group of people to advertise in
groups that may or may not want their advertising. I can't see that such
a thing would help when entire groups exist for the sole purpose of
advertising to a self-selected group of people who *want* to buy your
items.
> > 2. It will create confusion and friction because people will say, "Why
> > can't I put my eBay auctions on then? It's all castle sets!"
No comments here, either?
> > 3. It will cause friction from the people who don't want to see auction
> > announcements at all.
>
> Filter them out
Why should I have to?
Or, to put it another way, I'm *choosing* to 'filter them out' by not
reading lugnet.market.auction. Why should I have to do more work to get a
secondary filter in place?
> > > > I don't see any reason for changing the theme groups' charter. In your
> > > > original post, Scott, you did not give one reason for this. Why would we • want
> > > > this? If you have reasons, please mention them. Right now, I can't figure • out
> > > > any good things coming out of this other than the benefits of private • auction
> > > > sellers.
> > >
> > > To ensure buyers are fully aware of what is available. If this change was to
> > > come into action, it would put private auctions on a par with private sales.
> > > Nothing more.
> >
> > If the "buyers" want to know what is available, they should be subscribed
> > to .market.auction. If I'm subscribed to .auction, I'll see it. If I'm
> > not, then I'm obviously not interested in auctions, am I? So why should I
> > have to wade through auction announcements in .castle?
> >
> > I don't think private sales should be posted in theme groups either. I
> > haven't been following this discussion closely so I don't know if its come
> > up that these types of posts are allowed...but personally, I think sales
> > should be subject to exactly the same rules as auctions,
>
> I agree 100%.
That's one thing, anyway. *Are* sales being trated differently than
auctions, and in what way?
> > and I'd rather
> > see that mean sale posts restricted to .bst rather than allowing *any*
> > auction posts in theme groups.
> >
> > And I think its significant that *nobody* has apparently come forward and
> > said, "Yes, speaking as a buyer, I want to see auction/sale announcements
> > in the theme groups." That to me says that buyers would rather have them
> > in .auction and .bst, whatever the sellers want.
>
> But that does not mean that that opinion does not exist?
I think it means that nobody has cared enough to express the opinion.
If someone feels strongly that auction and sale announcements *should*
be allowed in theme groups I say to them: "speak now or forever hold
your peace."
J
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