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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) I was referring to your partisan liberalness. (...) I think you are unaware of how liberal your ideas actually are. I know I'm conservative; I'd bet you think you are pretty moderate... (...) No (thanks to the Israelis). Your refusal to come (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) Agreed. (...) Fair enough. (...) Hindsight is certainly 20/20. I would be more apt to concede culpability if we actually had any idea as to his evil character, and even given that it is sometimes necessary to choose a lesser of 2 evils (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) The Sons of Saddam seem to have forgotten that trite statement. Or perhaps, "He who lives be the sword, dies by the sword." So, yes, it's trite, but it also kinda backfires against David since it can also be used to explain why it happened. I (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) It matters a great deal to the Iraqi people. "Death of the kids"? Or how about "death of the murderous, sadistic thugs"? Look how pathetically partisan you've become-- criticizing the deaths of 2 pieces of human excrement. Sad, really. I (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) That can't be applicable, the institutions whose legitimacy for trial was recognized have been overpassed. Trial would therefore be a farce without an impartial judge. (...) No longer "if". IMO it's just a question of taste (or sensibility, if (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: <snip> (...) And yet you still keep on missing the point--you didn't give the inspectors this long to do their job--doing their job without the support and 'proof' that you "Mericans supposedly had, btw, (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) And the memory loss from the right must have the same short-life: the inspections were there to confirm the known WMD had been destroyed, and logic says what was destroyed can no longer be found. Can you prove those WMD were not destroyed? (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) Probably. But the impact of their deaths remains to be seen, alas. I am hopeful that the elimination of those two brutes will allow Iraq to begin to heal from the atrocities inflicted upon it by enemies both at home and abroad. However, it's (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) Your certainty confounds me AGAIN! There was no trial. There is no evidence. Sure, there are allegations. All I do know is that two persons alleged to be Saddam's children and likewise alleged to be criminals against humanity were killed. I (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) ...or not: U.S. Soldiers Killed After Saddam's Sons Die (URL) BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Two American soldiers were killed in ambushes in Iraq Wednesday, dashing any U.S. hopes that the killing of Saddam Hussein's sons, Uday and Qusay, would snuff (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: ISCC: Let your ideas take flight...
(...) In German it says "Konstruktive Umsetztung". I would have translated it as "constructive transformation" [of a given shape in reality into a Lego shape]. I think this is the James-Mathis-point in the contest: use of SNOT and other building (...) (23 years ago, 16-Oct-01, to lugnet.build.contests)

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		The Claw is my Master
(URL) So this was supposed to go on a ship I'm working on. I worked on it for an hour or so, and I think it looks ok as claws go, but it's not the one I have in my head. So I'm scrapping it and the ship is going sans-claw. Just thought I'd show it. (...) (21 years ago, 29-Jul-03, to lugnet.space, FTX)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
I'm uncomfortable with the idea of assassination as a worthy military or national goal, and I much would have preferred capture and trial. If killing them was the only way, then fine. But if there were options that were not pursued, then no. The (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) From: (URL) did not identify the other two who were killed. U.S. officials said Tuesday that one appeared to be a bodyguard, the other a teenager who may have been Qusay's son." I wonder if the kid died trying to cover his father, is spite of (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) They were bad. Do I celebrate anyone's death? No. Do I put "..seriously thought that the death of those two rat b***ards..." No. I think that justice would be served if the couple in St Kitts were put to death, but I would not celebrate it. (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) And how many people seriously thoguht that the death of the kids was going to help? Not to sound pithy or anything much like that, but it's only the idiots and morons that don't learn from history--violence begets violence. And this is the (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) What ever happened to “innocent until proven guilty”? BTW: How hypocritical will it be if (as has been suggested) Rumsfeld publishes pictures of their bodies? Scott A (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
(...) As one of the Daves in this go-around, I'll offer my thoughts in response. I should underscore outright that I'm definitely not anti-gun. I admit that I have leaned more in that direction in the past, but my opinion has evolved, and I no (...) (21 years ago, 28-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Tony Martin case: You can't {make up} better criticism of Liberals!
(...) Point One: Most burglaries occur during the day when nobody is home. This entire issue is a moot point, there is no confrontation. Most burglars hate confrontation. (Partly because it can lead to thier death.) Point Two: Yes, murderous (...) (21 years ago, 28-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
Although I don't revel in bloodshed, this should be great news to the entire world community. (URL) with evidence that these two were largely behind the guerrilla attacks on the coalition in Iraq hopeful the region will begin to calm down a bit. (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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