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    Review of 7897 Passenger Train available at ILTCO site —Larry Pieniazek
   I was fortunate enough to get a pre-release copy of this set, and I have reviewed it. My review is posted at the ILTCO site: (URL) (18 years ago, 11-May-06, to lugnet.trains) !! 
   
        Re: Review of 7897 Passenger Train available at ILTCO site —Elroy Davis
     (...) Larry, Thanks for the write-up. While I dig the idea of being able to slot different axles through the motor (possibly for uses other than trains), the idea of only being able to pull a couple of cars bums me out. Still, I won't know for sure (...) (18 years ago, 11-May-06, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Review of 7897 Passenger Train available at ILTCO site —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) no prob. (...) Me too. I think one reason for the large nose, thinwalls for windows, and large roof pieces is to save weight. (18 years ago, 11-May-06, to lugnet.trains)  
    
         Re: Review of 7897 Passenger Train available at ILTCO site —Andréas Rootzén
     (...) Thanx for sharing. I like the possibility to use it with technic, but why not recievers on both sides or radio-control? Theories? /Andréas (18 years ago, 11-May-06, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Review of 7897 Passenger Train available at ILTCO site —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Sorry if I was not clear, it does have receivers on both sides of the unit. But there still are blind spots like when it is edge on to you. (18 years ago, 11-May-06, to lugnet.trains)  
   
        Re: Review of 7897 Passenger Train available at ILTCO site —Bryan Kinkel
     Larry, Thanks for the review. I'm really disappointed with the big pieces. This set looks like the new plane series on rails. The big pieces seem to work for the new planes. But maybe not this passenger set. Despite the disadvantages of the IR (...) (18 years ago, 11-May-06, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Review of 7897 Passenger Train available at ILTCO site —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) I speculate it's weight related. But yes, I agree with you. the bottom pic really shows that well, those things are very much air. (...) Nod. I see green crocodiles in my future. Good parts, many many good parts, in that one. Of course Steve (...) (18 years ago, 11-May-06, to lugnet.trains)  
   
        Re: Review of 7897 Passenger Train available at ILTCO site —Ondrew Hartigan
     (...) cool write up. the pictures cleared up a lot of questions for me. it's good to know that the company used they're heads somewhat in the design, allthough this new ir train seems more like a fad product verses a system meant to last awhile. a (...) (18 years ago, 11-May-06, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Review of 7897 Passenger Train available at ILTCO site —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) Sorry, I am not totally sure there. See my pics from ToyFair on BrickLink, the placards say the release dates but I forget what they are. (...) Two advantages as I mentioned in the review... 1. The power unit can power anything that you can (...) (18 years ago, 11-May-06, to lugnet.trains)  
     
          Re: Review of 7897 Passenger Train available at ILTCO site —Ross Crawford
      (...) I think Ondrew was talking about the "time-out" mentioned somewhere, that the IR electronics switches off after a certain time if there's no signal from the controller. I'd be interested in knowing that too. Also, if you get a chance, could (...) (18 years ago, 11-May-06, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Review of 7897 Passenger Train available at ILTCO site —Eric Kingsley
      (...) I think this is my biggest problem with the line. I am sure it is fun for kids but it is the "in thing" in play trains right now. There seem to be 100 different IR/Remote control trains for kids out there (And most are significantly cheaper (...) (18 years ago, 11-May-06, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Review of 7897 Passenger Train available at ILTCO site —Mike Walsh
      "ondrew hartigan" <roj2323@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:Iz3qB7.1KFI@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) [ ... snipped ... ] I think they are supposed to be released in August but it seems that LEGO is beating their target ship dates these (...) (18 years ago, 16-May-06, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Review of 7897 Passenger Train available at ILTCO site —Dean Earley
     (...) If they ship at all... :( (18 years ago, 16-May-06, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Review of 7897 Passenger Train available at ILTCO site —Ross Crawford
     (...) They won't ship silly, they'll train!!!!! ROSCO (18 years ago, 17-May-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.fun)
   
        Re: Review of 7897 Passenger Train available at ILTCO site —David Koudys
     (...) Very concise write-up, Larry! Thanks for the information! Has anyone taken an 'old style' 9 volt motor, run a wire to one of these new battery motors, putting them both on a powered track and seeing what happens? Will the new motor work (...) (18 years ago, 11-May-06, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Review of 7897 Passenger Train available at ILTCO site —John Barnes
     (...) Thanks Lar. Interesting write up. I would assume that for a "normal" metal clad 9v rail system, the new IR baseplate can be designed into a rail car which has independent remote control of a model feature. For example, assuming you can power a (...) (18 years ago, 11-May-06, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Review of 7897 Passenger Train available at ILTCO site —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Yes. But you only get one control input so you may need to use reversible drive mechanisms that do different things in different directions, etc if you want two features... The RC cars have more than one control input but are too big to build (...) (18 years ago, 11-May-06, to lugnet.trains)  
    
         Re: Review of 7897 Passenger Train available at ILTCO site —Jason J. Railton
     (...) This is what I wanted it for, but the big bulge above the baseplate will be very hard to disguise. That's why I went to Maplin for an IR kit I could fit into a brick-built box. It turned out a bit bigger than I planned, but I've hooked it up (...) (18 years ago, 11-May-06, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Review of 7897 Passenger Train available at ILTCO site —Rob Hendrix
    "Larry Pieniazek" <lar(at@at)miltontra...t.dot)com> wrote in message news:Iz2ssx.63w@lugnet.com... (...) Would you comment on the center hole between the two motor wheels on the powered truck? Is it possible to utilize those holes to make a six (...) (18 years ago, 11-May-06, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Review of 7897 Passenger Train available at ILTCO site —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) It struck me as being a lot like the 12V truck, set up to do just that. I could not find the right part to use to try to connect central wheels though. That's a failing of checking every pin type on my part though. (it would be an axle/pin (...) (18 years ago, 11-May-06, to lugnet.trains)  
   
        Re: Review of 7897 Passenger Train available at ILTCO site —Mathew Clayson
     (...) While you're at it, can you confirm how the motor box is seeled shut, glue, screws or deformed tas like the old 9v motor. Also the new technic axel wheels have the traction tire on them, perhaps that's why they are solid. Pity they didn't redo (...) (18 years ago, 11-May-06, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Review of 7897 Passenger Train available at ILTCO site —Tony Hafner
   (...) Great writeup, Larry. Thanks for posting that and fielding questions. Now that the weekend is over and you're probably sick of handling requests from the peanut gallery, I have one more thing I was hoping to learn. Does the controller use the (...) (18 years ago, 16-May-06, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Review of 7897 Passenger Train available at ILTCO site —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) Except that I was stuck in BOS till saturday AM and had no time to do any of the research... It will have to wait till next week. (...) Good question. I will try to see if I can find some of those controllers and try that. (18 years ago, 16-May-06, to lugnet.trains)  
 

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