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(snip) This is a fairly radical opinion, I guess, but I'm not convinced that the 9V track is one of the "key" pieces to keep in production in old dark grey. I know it's different but frankly, this is an area where reality DOES vary. Railroads (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <larry.(mylastname)@...areDOTcom> wrote in message news:Hx91Ap.Cx9@lugnet.com... (...) 9V (...) know (...) Railroads (...) concrete (...) Hmm, if we're going to do anything with the track, how about brown? New brown would be fine. (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) What kind of detail parts? I'm hoping to put together a list that I can pass along. Thanks! Jake --- Jake McKee Community Liaison LEGO Community Development (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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"Frank Filz" <ffilz-lists@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:Hx922u.IIp@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) minifigs (...) have (...) head (...) [ ... snipped ... ] We had a similar conversation at the NCLTC GATS show a couple of weeks ago. (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Headlight bricks 1x1 round bricks basic plates & bricks in various sizes (as (URL) Ted mentioned>) 1x1x2 brick with hinge arches - 1x6, 1x6x2, 1x4, 1x8x2, 1x5x4, 1x3, 1x12x3 windows - 1x4x3 (brown) and the 1x2x2 2/3 with rounded top (all 3) (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) Mostly the modified plates and bricks that give you good greeblization. The plate-modifieds for starters... 1x1 plate with clips (all three kinds), 1x2 plates with handles, with rods, with offset studs 1x2 tile with rod, 1x2 tile with one stud (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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"Jake McKee" <jacob.mckee@america.lego.com> wrote in message news:Hx92GJ.LJy@lugnet.com... (...) important, than (...) pass (...) Hmm, the problem is that there are probably >1000 parts that really need to be available in a color to allow good (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Nooo...ooo! Chocolate brown track would be a total disaster! The track colour should emulate reality. Old dark grey for steel, old light grey for concrete or old brown for wood, but the new colours are totally unsuitable. Any change to the (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Why? I hear the WHINE, but I'm not hearing the WHY. WHY is this important, compared to other things (assume you're making a priority list here) Track varies in color in real life. It just *doesn't* make a high priority list of things in my (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Hello! (...) Well, you said "you can’t say 'the whole range of parts!'", so leave out this: (URL) and make all of the remaining parts available in the old colours. Make them also available not only in special bulk sets but in every set* you (TLC) is (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) That's your point of view - the consumer buys a product from LEGO. Other's point of view - the consumer buys a product from LEGO which belongs to SYSTEM. (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) It's more than just *my* point of view, it's the law, at least in the US. There is typically no implied warranty of suitability to purpose or fitness that is attached to any good sold here. You would need an express warranty to have any (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <larry.(mylastname)@...areDOTcom> wrote in message news:Hx93pr.vHI@lugnet.com... (...) need (...) brick (...) etc (...) I bet if you add this up, and add a good brick selection, you wind up in the several hundred parts range. (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Maybe.. but perhaps not. In some cases, BL sellers may have sufficient stock of older sets that they are waiting for things to sort out a bit. As an analogy.. some oil wells remain idle until the crude trading reaches a certain level. I think (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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"Jake McKee" <jacob.mckee@america.lego.com> wrote in message news:Hx92GJ.LJy@lugnet.com... (...) important, than (...) pass (...) 1 x 1 headlight bricks 1 x 2 jumper plates But Jake already knows this - I've been nagging for decent bulk amounts of (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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In lugnet.general, Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) See, you sit around long enuf and it shows up :) Anyway, I completely agree with Larry--when you buy something, you own what you purchased, but that does not, in any way, shape or form imply (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Technic pins are generally hidden from view; their colors rarely matter (sole exception I've seen: the penny flag last year, where white technic pins were stars in the US Flag). Technic connectors, on the other hand... I look through my entire (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I'm just eager that the track should not change *again*. OK, new light grey would be OK, and new dark grey tolerable at a push (it makes old dark grey look silly) but given that track pieces are some of the most expensive ones, changing them (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I like my Lego people as classic yellow smilies too. I don't really like the new minifigs with different expressions and stuff. I like them yellow, smiling and maybe with sunglasses or a pirate face. But then I'm a 1970s-mid-90s kinda gal... (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) You HAVE to be joking.... there's NO railroad tie, either wood, concrete or whatever other material that has such a blue tone in it. They'd even do better to simply convert it to brown than to use the new dark grey color. -- Jan-Albert van Ree (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Well ideally they would just go back to making everything in the original colors. I really wanted to like the new Spiderman and Harry Potter sets too. The mini-Star Destroyer set really irks me though. The perfect space accessory pack ruined by new (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Frank, I'm surprised you didn't mention one of the brown parts we love: Ship hulls. The primary problems with the new colors is that the new greys look like metal, not stone. In the same way, the old brown looks like wood. But a chocolate-colored (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Yes, old brown is wood, new brown is chocolate, sadly as much use for realistic modelling as a chocolate teapot. Rather edible looking too :) Mark (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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In lugnet.general, Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) Then why debate? You have continued this conversation far longer than it needs to be. Maybe one response if you really feel the urge, but honestly, I felt his claim that Lego owes him money so (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) They're just making the two axle-pins in blue (friction) and tan (non-friction). That's bad enough. The only pin that's ever been made in dark-grey is the 1.5 pin, and light-bley is close enough to light-grey that what few pins they'll (...) (20 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) It is my unresearched opinion that the Bracket 1x2 - 1x4 2436 has NEVER appeared in dark gray. Perhaps that's a quality that could nudge it up in the list? Constantine (20 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) They're usually hidden enough that light-bley shouldn't matter, but even just the pin tips on the blue/tan axle-pins stick out pretty bad compared to the old black/light-grey versions. Build a red TECHNIC creation and you'll see what I'm (...) (20 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Peeron supports your opinion. If we're getting into unproduced pieces, I've got a MOC that is now on permanent hiatus because I need four of these in classic light-grey: (URL) bought a bunch of pieces to complete the MOC, and I've just (...) (20 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) SNIP Would that be "Classic" brown or the new "Universal" Mega-Blok looking brown? -Ken (20 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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<SNIPPAGE> (...) the 9V (...) hobby! (...) but (...) was (...) that (...) I'm sorry, I just don't get this, When I look at a train layout, I'm not looking at the damn track... I'm looking at what's running on the track. And when you think about it, (...) (20 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Crap - that is the only piece that I really care about! ;) -mark (20 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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