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Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
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Sat, 14 Jul 2001 16:11:00 GMT
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Jude Beaudin writes:
In lugnet.events.brickfest, Larry Pieniazek writes:

It's now 12 O'clock

Metroliner!

Serious?!?

Serious. Brad showed the cover art for 10001, Metroliner, and 10002 Club Car.

   
         
     
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Re: August Surprise...
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message
news:GGH0yC.E78@lugnet.com...
In lugnet.events.brickfest, Jude Beaudin writes:
In lugnet.events.brickfest, Larry Pieniazek writes:

It's now 12 O'clock

Metroliner!

Serious?!?

Serious. Brad showed the cover art for 10001, Metroliner, and 10002 Club
Car.

How about this for a prediction - http://news.lugnet.com/trains/?n=11303

Mike


--
Mike Walsh - mike_walsh at mindspring dot com
http://www.nclug.net - North Carolina LEGO Users Group
http://www.nclug.net/ctb - Carolina Train Builders
http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=mpw - Brick Depot

    
          
     
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Re: August Surprise...
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LOL, you said *JULY* surprise, so you only get half credit, LOL :)~ But it
is GREAT to see this come back! I have never even seen one of these in
person, and think - pretty soon I will have one in my lego town!! I know
this is pushing it, but is there extra rail coming also?? (please)
Tom

In lugnet.events.brickfest, Mike Walsh writes:
Serious. Brad showed the cover art for 10001, Metroliner, and 10002 Club
Car.

How about this for a prediction - http://news.lugnet.com/trains/?n=11303

Mike


--
Mike Walsh - mike_walsh at mindspring dot com
http://www.nclug.net - North Carolina LEGO Users Group
http://www.nclug.net/ctb - Carolina Train Builders
http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=mpw - Brick Depot

   
         
     
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Re: August Surprise...
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Sat, 14 Jul 2001 18:07:46 GMT
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To All,

Metroliner!

Serious?!?

Serious. Brad showed the cover art for 10001, Metroliner, and 10002 Club Car.

How in the world did the LUGNET database get updated this quickly? They are
already there, the 10001 and 10002.

Hats off the to LD, I think this is a great move. Let's see now, there is a
castle legend set,a train legend set, and now we need a SPACE and TOWN legen
set and we will be happy clams (Actuallu, many clams will be going for those
: ) )

As for anohter matter, did I read correctly they "lost" the monorail dies?
How in the world did that happen?!?!?!?! AAUUGGHH!!! Make new ones, please!

Awesome news, Lar, thanks!

Scott "Will the spending ever stop? Oh well, put me down for 2 metroliners
and 4 club cars!" S.
--

    
          
      
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Re: August Surprise...
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Sat, 14 Jul 2001 18:13:49 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Scott Sanburn writes:
To All,

Metroliner!

Serious?!?

Serious. Brad showed the cover art for 10001, Metroliner, and 10002 Club Car.

How in the world did the LUGNET database get updated this quickly? They are
already there, the 10001 and 10002.

This is the internet age. Dan Boger shot digital pics of the cover art
(which is huge), uploaded them to his linux laptop and updated the DB *from
brickfest* all within about 20 min...

++Lar

     
           
      
Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
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On Sat, Jul 14, 2001 at 06:13:49PM +0000, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
Serious. Brad showed the cover art for 10001, Metroliner, and 10002 Club Car.
How in the world did the LUGNET database get updated this quickly? They are
already there, the 10001 and 10002.

This is the internet age. Dan Boger shot digital pics of the cover art
(which is huge), uploaded them to his linux laptop and updated the DB *from
brickfest* all within about 20 min...

Yah, I figure that's an acceptable wait time before new sets are posted,
don't you agree?  :)

--
Dan Boger
dan@peeron.com

     
           
      
Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
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Date: 
Mon, 16 Jul 2001 04:27:51 GMT
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Dan Boger writes:
On Sat, Jul 14, 2001 at 06:13:49PM +0000, Larry Pieniazek wrote:

This is the internet age. Dan Boger shot digital pics of the cover art
(which is huge), uploaded them to his linux laptop and updated the DB *from
brickfest* all within about 20 min...

Yah, I figure that's an acceptable wait time before new sets are posted,
don't you agree?  :)

15 min would have been better, but ya. :-)

    
          
     
Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
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He diddn't say they lost the dies for the track, he said they
couldn't make the motors anymore.  Maybe the company that supplied
the parts went out of business?

KL

In lugnet.events.brickfest, Scott Sanburn writes:
To All,

Metroliner!

Serious?!?

Serious. Brad showed the cover art for 10001, Metroliner, and 10002 Club Car.

How in the world did the LUGNET database get updated this quickly? They are
already there, the 10001 and 10002.

Hats off the to LD, I think this is a great move. Let's see now, there is a
castle legend set,a train legend set, and now we need a SPACE and TOWN legen
set and we will be happy clams (Actuallu, many clams will be going for those
: ) )

As for anohter matter, did I read correctly they "lost" the monorail dies?
How in the world did that happen?!?!?!?! AAUUGGHH!!! Make new ones, please!

Awesome news, Lar, thanks!

Scott "Will the spending ever stop? Oh well, put me down for 2 metroliners
and 4 club cars!" S.
--

    
          
      
Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Kevin Loch writes:
He diddn't say they lost the dies for the track, he said they
couldn't make the motors anymore.  Maybe the company that supplied
the parts went out of business?

KL

Noooooooooooooooo! I want monorail!


--Kyle (Totally bummed out that the motors are all gone ;-( )

PS who needs motors? Just give us track!!
http://hvl.cjb.net

    
          
     
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Re: August Surprise...
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Kevin & All,

He diddn't say they lost the dies for the track, he said they
couldn't make the motors anymore.  Maybe the company that supplied
the parts went out of business?

Definate possibility. That is too bad, I would have loved seeing either the
6399 or 6990 monorail come back. Those would have been ideal. Well, I hope
maybe they can pull our the straight monorail mold and maybe make a 10 pack
or something. Even the monrail carsbeds would be a plus.

Still a great announcement overall, I wonder what they will release in terms
of town / space.

Scott S.
--

    
          
     
Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Scott Sanburn writes:

- snip -

Still a great announcement overall, I wonder what they will release in terms
of town / space.

Personally, I think of the Metroliner as being a town set.  Sure it's a
train, but trains are a part of town, IMO.  Otherwise, I think 6390 Main
Street would be a good candidate.  (It even makes use of some SNOT building
techniques.)  6394 would also be cool.

As for space, I would like to see 497 Galaxy Explorer.  I would have picked
something Blacktron (or the M-Tron stuff, which I like for some odd reason),
but the classic space stuff just seems more, uhm, "universal".

Scott S.
--

Bryan "saving for the Metroliner" Beckwith

    
          
     
Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Bryan Beckwith writes:

Personally, I think of the Metroliner as being a town set.  Sure it's a
train, but trains are a part of town, IMO.

Why? LEGO(r) doesn't see it that way. LUGNET(tm) doesn't see it that way.

    
          
      
Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.events.brickfest, Bryan Beckwith writes:

Personally, I think of the Metroliner as being a town set.  Sure it's a
train, but trains are a part of town, IMO.

Why? LEGO(r) doesn't see it that way. LUGNET(tm) doesn't see it that way.

I think he means that if he were to build a town, it would have a train
station/line in it. I do not think he is saying that "Train" is part of
"Town". For a long time I have thought (and said) that Train needs to move
away from Town a little. I have suggested, in the past, that Lego should
consider an adventures train... or perhaps even a western or space one. I
suppose it could be argued that they have taken a tiny step that way with
the HP set. A tiny step.

Scott A

     
           
       
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Re: August Surprise...
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"Scott A" <eh105jb@mx1.pair.com> wrote in message
news:GGKL1z.LMu@lugnet.com...
I
suppose it could be argued that they have taken a tiny step that way with
the HP set. A tiny step.

Scott A

A tiny, yucky step.

     
           
      
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Scott Arthur writes:

- snip -

I think he means that if he were to build a town, it would have a train
station/line in it. I do not think he is saying that "Train" is part of
"Town". For a long time I have thought (and said) that Train needs to move
away from Town a little. I have suggested, in the past, that Lego should
consider an adventures train... or perhaps even a western or space one. I
suppose it could be argued that they have taken a tiny step that way with
the HP set. A tiny step.

You summarized what I was saying better than I could have.

As for the "tiny step" with HP, I actually feel it is a pretty large step.
At least now a train (no Larry, not a Train) will be available at almost all
retail locations.

Scott A

Bryan Beckwith

     
           
      
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Re: August Surprise...
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Bryan Beckwith writes:

As for the "tiny step" with HP, I actually feel it is a pretty large step.
At least now a train (no Larry, not a Train) will be available at almost all
retail locations.

Agreed. Definitely not a "Train" since it's not badged as Train. Not sure
I'd characterise it as even a small "t" train since it doesn't run on track,
apparently.

    
          
     
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Re: August Surprise...
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.events.brickfest, Bryan Beckwith writes:

Personally, I think of the Metroliner as being a town set.  Sure it's a
train, but trains are a part of town, IMO.

Why? LEGO(r) doesn't see it that way. LUGNET(tm) doesn't see it that way.

First of all, I just want to say that you sure are a touchy guy.  That said,
on to my response.

Why? LEGO(r) doesn't see it that way.

No?  When looking at the Metroliner box, I can clearly see at least half a
dozen minifigs which are clearly Town.

LUGNET(tm) doesn't see it that way.

I do.  I am part of LUGNET.  Your statement is false. :)

I think the wording of my original post may be what you have an issue with.
I was careful not to capitalize 'town' or 'train', because I wasn't talking
about the Town line or the Train line.  All I was saying is that while the
Metroliner is a train (and part of Train), it looks to me like it would be
part of a town (not the Town line, but just a town/city).

Similarly, if LEGO were to produce an Old West era train, (maybe they have,
I don't know), to me it would be part of the wild west.  The train may be a
set in the Train line, but all I was originally saying is that it fits into
other lines as well.

In fact, I would be willing to go so far as to say that Train (the line) is
almost a supplement to other lines of LEGO sets.  A futuristic train would
be part of Space (the monorail is often used in Space setups).  An early
1900s era train could easilly be part of Adventurers.  An 1800s train could
easilly be part of Western.  Modern trains are easilly a part of Town.

I'm not saying that trains are any more or less
valuable/interesting/fun/whatever than other LEGO lines, but what would a
Train setup be without buildings, people, etc.?

Bryan "gonna buy a Metroliner and build a town around it" Beckwith

    
          
      
Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
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In lugnet.trains, Bryan Beckwith writes:

Why? LEGO(r) doesn't see it that way.

No?  When looking at the Metroliner box, I can clearly see at least half a
dozen minifigs which are clearly Town.

But the original box was badged Trains not Town... The metroliner had grey
1x4s in it, does that make it Classic Space?

LEGO(r) set up different themes, LEGO decided how to organize them. LEGO
decided that Town and Trains were different themes. It's gotten all muddled
up of late, but the original theme organization made sense.

LUGNET(tm) doesn't see it that way.

I do.  I am part of LUGNET.  Your statement is false. :)

LUGNET(tm), the entity, not "LUGNET users", so your claim is inoperative. :-)

You are posting to lugnet.trains and not lugnet.townandtrains because the
people who set up the newsgroups modeled the theme organization quite
closely. Rightly so, IMHO.

Bryan "gonna buy a Metroliner and build a town around it" Beckwith

Which is fine, but shows that you're a townie. I build townstuff as a
backdrop for trains rather than the other way round. The trains are the
players on *my* stage and the buildings are merely set decoration. To each
his own, though, there is no wrong way to do things.

Just wrong ways of speaking, which is why I jumped.

    
          
     
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Re: August Surprise...
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Good point.  The 6691 Monorail Transport Base is Space/Unitron, and the 6399
Airport Shuttle is Town/Flight yet both are monorails - similar to trains
(i.e. bi-rails?).

I think the Lego Group should be consistant.  The existing line of trains
ARE Town!


Play well,

-BrewB


Bryan Beckwith wrote in message ...
In lugnet.events.brickfest, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.events.brickfest, Bryan Beckwith writes:

Personally, I think of the Metroliner as being a town set.  Sure it's a
train, but trains are a part of town, IMO.

Why? LEGO(r) doesn't see it that way. LUGNET(tm) doesn't see it that way.

First of all, I just want to say that you sure are a touchy guy.  That • said,
on to my response.

Why? LEGO(r) doesn't see it that way.

No?  When looking at the Metroliner box, I can clearly see at least half a
dozen minifigs which are clearly Town.

LUGNET(tm) doesn't see it that way.

I do.  I am part of LUGNET.  Your statement is false. :)

I think the wording of my original post may be what you have an issue with.
I was careful not to capitalize 'town' or 'train', because I wasn't talking
about the Town line or the Train line.  All I was saying is that while the
Metroliner is a train (and part of Train), it looks to me like it would be
part of a town (not the Town line, but just a town/city).

Similarly, if LEGO were to produce an Old West era train, (maybe they have,
I don't know), to me it would be part of the wild west.  The train may be a
set in the Train line, but all I was originally saying is that it fits into
other lines as well.

In fact, I would be willing to go so far as to say that Train (the line) is
almost a supplement to other lines of LEGO sets.  A futuristic train would
be part of Space (the monorail is often used in Space setups).  An early
1900s era train could easilly be part of Adventurers.  An 1800s train could
easilly be part of Western.  Modern trains are easilly a part of Town.

I'm not saying that trains are any more or less
valuable/interesting/fun/whatever than other LEGO lines, but what would a
Train setup be without buildings, people, etc.?

Bryan "gonna buy a Metroliner and build a town around it" Beckwith

   
         
     
Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message
news:GGH0yC.E78@lugnet.com...

It's now 12 O'clock

Metroliner!

Serious?!?

Serious. Brad showed the cover art for 10001, Metroliner, and 10002 Club
Car.

http://guide.lugnet.com/set/10001

http://guide.lugnet.com/set/10002

Is this for real? Does this mean that:

a) In a little while, I might be able to go to Toys R Us and purchase a
Metroliner?!

b) In a little while, I might be able to go on LEGO Shop at Home and
purchase a Metroliner?!

WOW!

    Iain

    
          
      
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Re: August Surprise...
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"Rebel Transcanner" <hendryjr@oxford.net> wrote in message
news:GGH6rp.51w@lugnet.com...
"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message

[ ... snipped ... ]


Is this for real? Does this mean that:

a) In a little while, I might be able to go to Toys R Us and purchase a
Metroliner?!

b) In a little while, I might be able to go on LEGO Shop at Home and
purchase a Metroliner?!

WOW!

    Iain



It means B - all of the Legends sets are "Not Available In Any Store" .  You
might find it at LEGOLand, or one of LEGO Imagination Center stores.

Mike


--
Mike Walsh - mike_walsh at mindspring dot com
http://www.nclug.net - North Carolina LEGO Users Group
http://www.nclug.net/ctb - Carolina Train Builders
http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=mpw - Brick Depot

     
           
      
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Re: August Surprise...
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This is another one of "Ben" Benecke's cruel jokes.  He is infamous for
"recreating" Lego catalogues and fooling the good people of the Lego train
community into believing they are real.  He is a very, very mean person.

Ben,

Please stop this hoax.  People are going to get hurt.  This is no longer
funny.  You are a very sick man!!!  This is worse than yelling "fire" in a
crowded movie theater!

All,

Apparently "old Ben" subscribes to the theory: "If you are going to tell a
lie, tell a big one; and keep repeating it - people will believe you if you
tell it often enough."

Never again!

Play well,

-BrewB  ;{>

Mike Walsh wrote in message ...

"Rebel Transcanner" <hendryjr@oxford.net> wrote in message
news:GGH6rp.51w@lugnet.com...
"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message

[ ... snipped ... ]


Is this for real? Does this mean that:

a) In a little while, I might be able to go to Toys R Us and purchase a
Metroliner?!

b) In a little while, I might be able to go on LEGO Shop at Home and
purchase a Metroliner?!

WOW!

    Iain



It means B - all of the Legends sets are "Not Available In Any Store" . • You
might find it at LEGOLand, or one of LEGO Imagination Center stores.

Mike


--
Mike Walsh - mike_walsh at mindspring dot com
http://www.nclug.net - North Carolina LEGO Users Group
http://www.nclug.net/ctb - Carolina Train Builders
http://www.brickbay.com/store.asp?u=mpw - Brick Depot



     
           
       
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Re: August Surprise...
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In lugnet.trains, Stephen Altbacker writes:
This is another one of "Ben" Benecke's cruel jokes.  He is infamous for
"recreating" Lego catalogues and fooling the good people of the Lego train
community into believing they are real.  He is a very, very mean person.

Ben,

Please stop this hoax.

Get a grip.

Brad Justus is a real person. He told over 100 other real people that this
was going to be happening, we all saw and heard it. Ben was nowhere near
Washington DC at the time.

      
            
       
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Larry,

Play well.

-BrewB.


Larry Pieniazek wrote in message ...
In lugnet.trains, Stephen Altbacker writes:
This is another one of "Ben" Benecke's cruel jokes.  He is infamous for
"recreating" Lego catalogues and fooling the good people of the Lego train
community into believing they are real.  He is a very, very mean person.

Ben,

Please stop this hoax.

Get a grip.

Brad Justus is a real person. He told over 100 other real people that this
was going to be happening, we all saw and heard it. Ben was nowhere near
Washington DC at the time.

      
            
       
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In lugnet.trains, Stephen Altbacker writes:
Larry,

Play well.

Likewise. Now, you've made your point, OK? Please don't do it again, thanks.

     
           
       
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Re: August Surprise...
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In lugnet.trains, Stephen Altbacker writes:
This is another one of "Ben" Benecke's cruel jokes.  He is infamous for
"recreating" Lego catalogues and fooling the good people of the Lego train
community into believing they are real.  He is a very, very mean person.

Ben,

Please stop this hoax.  People are going to get hurt.  This is no longer
funny.  You are a very sick man!!!  This is worse than yelling "fire" in a
crowded movie theater!

All,

Apparently "old Ben" subscribes to the theory: "If you are going to tell a
lie, tell a big one; and keep repeating it - people will believe you if you
tell it often enough."

Never again!

Play well,

How come everyone keeps blaming Ben!?  If Brad's showing it at Brickfest,
then it IS real.  Ben also said that he only will do something like this on
April Fools day.  I don't know about you, but I'm ordering 1 #10001 and 2
#10002's.
Josh

     
           
      
Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
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Sun, 15 Jul 2001 17:23:21 GMT
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Either you are trying to be funny, in which case you have failed because
beating a dead horse isn't humorous; or you are serious, in which case you are
astonishingly clueless and should refrain from speaking out on matters about
which you know nothing.

And even if you are joking, it is very subtle at best and can be misconstrued
through the 'net *very* easily.  People will miss your point and think you are
flaming Ben for real.  Ben is a great guy, and if I were him, I'd be pretty
annoyed with a post such as this.  This is how slander and innuendo start.

So please just apologize for your obfuscation and really "play well".

-John

Stephen Altbacker wrote:

This is another one of "Ben" Benecke's cruel jokes.  He is infamous for
"recreating" Lego catalogues and fooling the good people of the Lego train
community into believing they are real.  He is a very, very mean person.

Ben,

Please stop this hoax.  People are going to get hurt.  This is no longer
funny.  You are a very sick man!!!  This is worse than yelling "fire" in a
crowded movie theater!

All,

Apparently "old Ben" subscribes to the theory: "If you are going to tell a
lie, tell a big one; and keep repeating it - people will believe you if you
tell it often enough."

Never again!

Play well,

-BrewB  ;{>

     
           
       
Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
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In lugnet.trains, John Neal writes:
Either you are trying to be funny, in which case you have failed because
beating a dead horse isn't humorous; or you are serious, in which case you are
astonishingly clueless and should refrain from speaking out on matters about
which you know nothing.

And even if you are joking, it is very subtle at best and can be misconstrued
through the 'net *very* easily.  People will miss your point and think you are
flaming Ben for real.  Ben is a great guy, and if I were him, I'd be pretty
annoyed with a post such as this.  This is how slander and innuendo start.

So please just apologize for your obfuscation and really "play well".

-John


Thanks for this posting of yours John!

In fact I was reading the text of Stephan and was not sure, how to understand
it. If there was a joke, then I surely missed it. Getting a joke in a foreign
language is not too easy sometimes....

On the other hand I'm feeling always a little proud, when people think of me
being that active (and successful!) in making hoaxes. But it is right: I never
made a Lego hoax on another day than april the first.

Anyway: who is Stephen and why should I care about thing he writes? He has done
2 postings in lugnet.trains so far (AFAIK) and he seems to have a little
paranoia about me. ;-))
http://news.lugnet.com/market/shopping/?n=7723

Leg Godt!

Ben

     
           
      
Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
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So maybe I am "beating a dead horse" with a little "subtle" humor.

When you have to explain a joke it is no longer "funny".  Explanation to
follow (if you "get the joke" please disregard).

Start Explanation:
I guess I just get a little tired when some one posts "Is this for real?
Does this mean...etc, etc...", every damn time the TLG comes out with
something new.  I thought it was painfully obvious that the new train cars
are "REAL".  I don't know why people post "Is this true?" all of the time,
so I made a few jokes about "Ben" Benecke and his April fools joke.
End of Explanation

That said, I also think that Mr.. Benecke's trains (MOC's) are much, much
better than some of these "new" train cars.  The caboose is lame, and, I
mean, who can't whip together a 10013  Open Freight Wagon with a few spare
parts from his/her own collection???

I apologize if my "humor" was not interpreted as such.

Ben, you da man!  (Trans.  Du bist der best!")

-BrewB



John Neal wrote in message <3B51D177.66435AF2@uswest.net>...
Either you are trying to be funny, in which case you have failed because
beating a dead horse isn't humorous; or you are serious, in which case you • are
astonishingly clueless and should refrain from speaking out on matters • about
which you know nothing.

And even if you are joking, it is very subtle at best and can be • misconstrued
through the 'net *very* easily.  People will miss your point and think you • are
flaming Ben for real.  Ben is a great guy, and if I were him, I'd be pretty
annoyed with a post such as this.  This is how slander and innuendo start.

So please just apologize for your obfuscation and really "play well".

-John

Stephen Altbacker wrote:

This is another one of "Ben" Benecke's cruel jokes.  He is infamous for
"recreating" Lego catalogues and fooling the good people of the Lego • train
community into believing they are real.  He is a very, very mean person.

Ben,

Please stop this hoax.  People are going to get hurt.  This is no longer
funny.  You are a very sick man!!!  This is worse than yelling "fire" in • a
crowded movie theater!

All,

Apparently "old Ben" subscribes to the theory: "If you are going to tell • a
lie, tell a big one; and keep repeating it - people will believe you if • you
tell it often enough."

Never again!

Play well,

-BrewB  ;{>


     
           
       
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Re: August Surprise...
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"Stephen Altbacker" <brewbastrd@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:GGJE73.Fwo@lugnet.com...

So maybe I am "beating a dead horse" with a little "subtle" humor.

When you have to explain a joke it is no longer "funny".  Explanation to
follow (if you "get the joke" please disregard).

Start Explanation:
I guess I just get a little tired when some one posts "Is this for real?
Does this mean...etc, etc...", every damn time the TLG comes out with
something new.  I thought it was painfully obvious that the new train cars
are "REAL".  I don't know why people post "Is this true?" all of the time,
so I made a few jokes about "Ben" Benecke and his April fools joke.
End of Explanation

Jeez, sorry. I'm relatively new to the train scene and didn't know.

    Iain

      
            
       
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Re: August Surprise...
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Iain,

No need to apologize.  I was reacting to your post with a little humor (some
would say very little).  I think that it is best to handle a difference of
opinion and get a chuckle at the same time.  There are others who see
something posted of which they don't approve and flame you.  There are yet
others who wouldn't know a joke if it flew up their nose.  Either way,
ignore them, maybe they will go away.

To each his own, and I hope you enjoy the "train scene".

By the way, have you checked out Ben's Lego Train Page?
http://www-public.tu-bs.de:8080/~rbeneke/lego/ben_abs.html  It's really
something.

Play well,

-BrewB

PS  I am in no way affiliated nor related to "Ben" Benecke.  I'm just a fan
of his work.


Rebel Transcanner wrote in message ...
"Stephen Altbacker" <brewbastrd@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:GGJE73.Fwo@lugnet.com...

So maybe I am "beating a dead horse" with a little "subtle" humor.

When you have to explain a joke it is no longer "funny".  Explanation to
follow (if you "get the joke" please disregard).

Start Explanation:
I guess I just get a little tired when some one posts "Is this for real?
Does this mean...etc, etc...", every damn time the TLG comes out with
something new.  I thought it was painfully obvious that the new train • cars
are "REAL".  I don't know why people post "Is this true?" all of the • time,
so I made a few jokes about "Ben" Benecke and his April fools joke.
End of Explanation

Jeez, sorry. I'm relatively new to the train scene and didn't know.

   Iain



      
            
       
Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
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lugnet.trains
Date: 
Tue, 17 Jul 2001 02:27:01 GMT
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Stephen Altbacker wrote:

<snip>..."Ben" Benecke. ...<snip>

Just a question-- this is about the fourth time you have butchered Ben
*BENEKE*'s name.  Or is this some more of that subtle humor here that I'm
missing?

-John



      
            
       
Subject: 
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No John, that was a mistake.

I promise to "mark-up" my jokes with <JOKE> tags from now on so that you
will know when to laugh.  Oh, that's right, humor is expressly forbidden in
this news group.

Play well, John, play well.

-BrewB

John Neal wrote in message <3B53A274.FCC61A55@uswest.net>...


Stephen Altbacker wrote:

<snip>..."Ben" Benecke. ...<snip>

Just a question-- this is about the fourth time you have butchered Ben
*BENEKE*'s name.  Or is this some more of that subtle humor here that I'm
missing?

-John




      
            
       
Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
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In lugnet.trains, Stephen Altbacker writes:
No John, that was a mistake.

You will have to keep up-- that's spelled "misteak" around here.

I promise to "mark-up" my jokes with <JOKE> tags from now on so that you
will know when to laugh.

Or not.


Oh, that's right, humor is expressly forbidden in this news group.

Just sarcasm.  And you catch on so well.

Play well, John, play well.
You can say that again.

-John

-BrewB

John Neal wrote in message <3B53A274.FCC61A55@uswest.net>...


Stephen Altbacker wrote:

<snip>..."Ben" Benecke. ...<snip>

Just a question-- this is about the fourth time you have butchered Ben
*BENEKE*'s name.  Or is this some more of that subtle humor here that I'm
missing?

-John




     
           
      
Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
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lugnet.trains
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In lugnet.trains, Stephen Altbacker writes:

That said, I also think that Mr.. Benecke's trains (MOC's) are much, much
better than some of these "new" train cars.  The caboose is lame, and, I
mean, who can't whip together a 10013  Open Freight Wagon with a few spare
parts from his/her own collection???

Assuming, of course, they *have* such parts in their collection!!!

But I agree, the 10013 looks a bit strange - none of the log cars I've seen
(in australia) has big end sections - they rely on the chains holding them.

ROSCO

     
           
      
Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
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lugnet.trains
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In lugnet.trains, Ross Crawford writes:
In lugnet.trains, Stephen Altbacker writes:

That said, I also think that Mr.. Benecke's trains (MOC's) are much, much
better than some of these "new" train cars.  The caboose is lame, and, I
mean, who can't whip together a 10013  Open Freight Wagon with a few spare
parts from his/her own collection???

Assuming, of course, they *have* such parts in their collection!!!

But I agree, the 10013 looks a bit strange - none of the log cars I've seen
(in australia) has big end sections - they rely on the chains holding them.

ROSCO

This car is actully prototypical, the car would normally be used for
pulpwood, the logs being short, and stacked sideways.  They'll sometimes
leave the chain out here stateside...  But one thing i have to say, the ends
are backwards.  The caboose on the other hand is only a great sorce for 1x1
handle bricks for my fire engines.  With that said, i see Stephen's
frustration, when people ask if it is true it bothers me too, but the hacks
at Ben's april fool's joke are cheep.  Anyways, I model 8-wide, so the new
trains are of no real use (but i'm getting a Metroliner...).
Josh

    
          
     
Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains
Date: 
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In lugnet.trains, Iain Hendry writes:

Is this for real? Does this mean that:

a) In a little while, I might be able to go to Toys R Us and purchase a
Metroliner?!

Probably no. LD does not hold the retail brief...


b) In a little while, I might be able to go on LEGO Shop at Home and
purchase a Metroliner?!

Almost certainly yes.

++Lar

   
         
     
Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.org.ca.vlc
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:

In lugnet.events.brickfest, Jude Beaudin writes:
In lugnet.events.brickfest, Larry Pieniazek writes:

It's now 12 O'clock

Metroliner!

Serious?!?

Serious. Brad showed the cover art for 10001, Metroliner, and 10002 Club Car.

There you have it! Metroliners AND Club cars!!!

Wow, wow...

Dean

    
          
      
Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
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lugnet.org.ca.vlc
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Dean Husby wrote:

Larry Pieniazek wrote:

In lugnet.events.brickfest, Jude Beaudin writes:
In lugnet.events.brickfest, Larry Pieniazek writes:

It's now 12 O'clock

Metroliner!

Serious?!?

Serious. Brad showed the cover art for 10001, Metroliner, and 10002 Club Car.

There you have it! Metroliners AND Club cars!!!

Wow, wow...

Dean

http://guide.lugnet.com/set/10001
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/10002

Dean

    
          
     
Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.org.ca.vlc
Date: 
Mon, 16 Jul 2001 19:20:08 GMT
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There you have it! Metroliners AND Club cars!!!

I haven't posted about this because up til now ... I've been
speechless!!

Robin finally gets a club car!!

... sweet

    
          
     
Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
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lugnet.org.ca.vlc
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Robin Sather wrote:

There you have it! Metroliners AND Club cars!!!

I haven't posted about this because up til now ... I've been
speechless!!

Robin finally gets a club car!!

... sweet

Make sure we do a club group order...

Dean

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.events.brickfest, lugnet.trains
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.events.brickfest, Jude Beaudin writes:
In lugnet.events.brickfest, Larry Pieniazek writes:

It's now 12 O'clock

Metroliner!

Serious?!?

Serious. Brad showed the cover art for 10001, Metroliner, and 10002 Club Car.

So anyone bidding on this?????

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1616907817

ROSCO

 

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