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LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

I'm happy to announce that formal LUGNET memberships are now available. :) Things won't be very fancy initially (no map or other web-toys yet) but this gets the ball rolling and begins to pave the way for much more to come later down the road. At (...) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.people) !!

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Richard Franks

Woo-hoo! I love those chest-stickers :) First a question - I made a mistake - d'oh! I forgot to put my country in the address field, is it okay to go back with my browser, change the information and re-submit, or should I email the changes to (...) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) No, that would create a second event in the applications log. (...) I would say, simply just wait until you get the info/password that lets you edit your personal info, and then you can easily make the edit directly yourself. :) (...) It's not (...) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) Ooops, I take that back -- I'll have to make the change, otherwise it's a "chicken and the egg" paradox because your info might not get to you via post without a complete address. :) You can just respond to this post and mail me the country (...) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Richard Franks

(...) If I post my fee from the UK today, it'll probably get to you after someone who posts theirs from the US in a weeks time - this isn't a big issue as I'd never be immature enough to compete for a membership number anyway ;) I'm not trying to (...) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) Yeah, I know. :) Some people might, though. I'd just hate to see anyone rush through it, so I thought it was worth pointing out. :) --Todd (24 years ago, 14-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Kevin Loch

Where do you mail the membership fee to and who should it be made payable to? KL (...) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Richard Franks

(...) I'm guessing that that information is in the acknowledgement email that is sent to you after your form has been processed... ? But I don't have mine yet, so I can't tell you! Richrd (24 years ago, 14-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Peter Callaway

(...) Cool!! Todd, how do you want to handle international payments? Can you accept cheques (or should I say checks??) in non US curency (converted appropriately) or should I organise to get a US cheque or similar to you? Can you accept credit card (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) For now, it needs to be a cheque (personal, cashier's, money order, etc.) drawn on a U.S. bank and written in U.S. Dollars. (Cash in person is also fine, but if you choose to send cash by post, please make sure that you understand the risks (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Larry Pieniazek

(...) I'd be happy to factor for folks on this one if there was interest. Since you'd be paying one of my factorees, they get no fee, and I'd halve my usual fee of a buck. email me or see my webpages... (my.voyager.net/lar/...desc.html) Todd needs (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) It's OK with me if it's OK with you. --Todd (24 years ago, 15-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Larry Pieniazek

Done. Only for countries where I have factorees, please. (Australia, Germany, Italy Japan, Netherlands, New Zealand, United Kingdom) No email please! Send me a form and my rake will be 50 cents. If you email me directly it will be a dollar. To speed (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Dave Lovelace

(...) Todd, Before I begin, I want to mention that members filling out the form from a proxy server should add a few extra keystrokes (like spaces) at the end of each text field, because they get chopped off. Todd, I actually submitted twice; the (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Will Middelaer

(...) Todd, tm As the self appointed paranoiac (1) user of Lugnet, I just want to suggest that you should have some wording on the application itself to minors and other kiddies out there that they should be speaking with their parents before (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) Mmm, good idea, thanks. --Todd (24 years ago, 15-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) Followup---Here's what I did...3 things: ---...--- On the entry page (URL) I changed the first paragraph from: How do I join? To become a LUGNET member, first familiarize yourself with LUGNET's Terms of Use, then fill out the lifetime (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-99, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Alex Roode

Ummm... I don't really want to pay anything... do I have to? ANd if I don't, will I still be able to post messages on LUGNET? (...) Alex "Buy LUGNET memberships at Spam R Us (and spambayala) for a limited time only! [1]" Roode [1] Okay, so that was (...) (24 years ago, 16-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Richard Franks

(...) Nope! (...) Yep! AFAIK, everything you see here today is free, and will continue to be so. What memberships will give you is the ability to have an 'identity' on Lugnet, and participate in Auctions where Lugnet is an active hub. There are a (...) (24 years ago, 16-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) I'm sending out a follow-up message to clarify things... I pasted a copy below... (Yuck, I hate sending out unsolicited e-mail in quantities like this -- it feels like spamming. :-( Last time anything like this went out to everyone who'd (...) (24 years ago, 16-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Zlatko Unger

Umm...Todd, you said we can join but those who do not want to pay they do not have to, right? If so how come you cannot finish the form without filling the $____ parts out? For example if you leace it blank you get: "Information missing: Membership (...) (24 years ago, 16-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Ryan Dennett

I believe that Todd meant that you don't have to pay to USE Lugnet, but you do have to pay the $10.US to become a MEMBER. I think that maybe that some people would sort of like support another person, by paying the fee for them if that person is (...) (24 years ago, 16-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) No, not exactly. (1) Anyone can join. (2) No one has to pay to continue using LUGNET. Those are both true statements. But not paying to join implies not joining. In other words, it's not a true statement that someone can join without paying. (...) (24 years ago, 16-Nov-99, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Alex Roode

(...) so. (...) Lugnet, (...) more (...) I love e-mail! As long as it takes at least two minutes to read, I love it! (except for those dumb webpage newsleter thingies, I HATE those!) (...) Okay, I'm sorry if I don't wanna pay anything, but I don't (...) (24 years ago, 16-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Hey Todd (Re: LUGNET Memberships) —Richard Marchetti

Todd: Okay, you do for us so I'd like to do a little in support of that effort and join in on the offered Lugnet membership. At the same time, I would never want ANY information about myself or my interests shared out without my permission -- am I (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: Hey Todd (Re: LUGNET Memberships) —Todd Lehman

(...) I can't promise 100.000% confidentiality, since no matter how unlikely, theft or break-in is always a distant possibility, but I can promise that personal information will never be sold or given out to spammers or to LEGO or anything like that (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: Hey Todd (Re: LUGNET Memberships) —Mike Stanley

(...) I hope it always stays for-profit. I WANT someone to make money off this. Heck, I want to help Todd & Suz actually turn a profit by running all my auctions here. :) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: Hey Todd (Re: LUGNET Memberships) —Eric Kingsley

(...) this (...) I would have to agree in this case. I think a for-profit LUGNET can only be a good thing. The more profit LUGNET makes then the more time Todd can devote to it which can only make things better. I was actually considering trying my (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: Hey Todd (Re: LUGNET Memberships) —Larry Pieniazek

(...) And I want to help Todd & Suz turn a profit by transitioning all my factoring to here... as well as running auctions and sales here, if the prices end up being as good as eBay's... (24 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: Hey Todd (Re: LUGNET Memberships) —Larry Pieniazek

My factoring for memberships seems to be working, we've done two already with one more pending... Thank you, all, for not emailing me with questions! :-) (24 years ago, 18-Nov-99, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: Hey Todd (Re: LUGNET Memberships) —Scott Arthur

(...) What are LUGNet's actual running costs? I mean costs for upgrades, repairs, power and Todd's time? I assume the start-up costs would be high, or at least what I consider to be high? Scott A (24 years ago, 18-Nov-99, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Fredrik Glöckner

(...) Is it possible to pay by having the membership fee deducted from one's AucZILLA account? Can this be specified when signing up for a membership? Fredrik (24 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) OK. (...) No, just send me an email here at this address... --Todd (24 years ago, 17-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

About those memberships... (was: LUGNET Memberships) —Shiri Dori

Dear Todd, I *still* don't know where I should send those $10. Is it to your house? If so, what's the address? TIA, Shiri (24 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: About those memberships... (was: LUGNET Memberships) —Todd Lehman

(...) You just now (about 90 minutes ago) filled out the enrollment form, right? Check your e-mail -- the info you need should be there in your inbox now. Best, --Todd (24 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

Well, just got back from the 24x7 USPS in downtown Boston. Mailed out the first huge stack of member packets. And whew -- the first run at it took a lot longer than I'd expected, but now I think it's down to a science. I'll try to run batches to the (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Larry Pieniazek

Daily chuckle? (...) I know what you meant... but California isn't a country, per se... - it was once, though. Briefly. - some people that live there are from another planet - some people there wish it was - some people in the rest of the US wish it (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Richard Marchetti

(...) Ever wondered why that was the case, Larry? ::ahem:: -- Richard (24 years ago, 4-Dec-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Ed Jones

(...) I received mine today. This is a very classy mailing. Love the envelope. I won't spoil everyone's fun by revealing the contents, but they are very cool!!!!! I may have to join again to get more!!!! Hmm... maybe I'll sign my other half up. (...) (24 years ago, 7-Dec-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Richard Franks

(...) Ahh! I had my suspicions from day 1 as to what *might* be in there, but yeah, I didn't want to spoil anyones fun either by suggesting it - especially if it wasn't :) Can't wait for mine to come through :) But as I took ages getting organised (...) (24 years ago, 7-Dec-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) Thanks! And glad you enjoyed it! (...) On most pages, there's now a thing to click on in the upper-right corner of the screen. It's labeled "Sign In" and currently (but subject to change) shows a yellow key for the icon. Click that, and then (...) (24 years ago, 7-Dec-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Ed Jones

(...) Cool, it works, it works. (24 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Larry Pieniazek

Don't tell me your PW, but should I be able to figure out what the default one is??? (24 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Richard Franks

(...) Well, if you can work out mine then please let me know :) I'm just impatient to wait until (probably) after Christmas for my package to arrive :) Richard (24 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Larry Pieniazek

(...) to (...) OK, that kind of answers that the PW is either sent in the mail or emailed to you, I finally got around to filling out my info form (kind of embarassing for me to be the only person in the first 20 (50?) that didn't have theirs filled (...) (24 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Richard Franks

(...) Ah.. I believe that the password is sent with your member packet, I can't remember where I read that but it's in there somewhere! Richard (24 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —John Neal

(...) Number 49 here to say "no", my PW did not come with an email AND I have yet to receive my membership packet. So if you see me on the street and I am not able to perform the secret handshake, please go lightly on me. -7x7{;^D (...) (24 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) I believe yours went out yesterday, John, so it should get to you tomorrow (Friday), assuming the USPS isn't swamped yet. --Todd (24 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) Everyone gets a different randomly-generated password. No default passwords, no backdoors. The passwords are generated once, then crypted (like Unix), and stored only in crypted form. Right before writing them to disk in crypted form, they're (...) (24 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Richard Franks

(...) Shucks! And there I was hoping that it was some intense math-geek thing. "Take the set number of the LEGO set released closest to your birthday and convert into 4 digit format. Interpolate these digits with the first 5 digits of your phone (...) (24 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Ed Jones

(...) randomly generated ascii characters. (24 years ago, 10-Dec-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —James Brown

(...) Ditto :) James (URL) (24 years ago, 9-Dec-99, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Christopher L. Weeks

(...) If I send an extra $10, can I get a new packet of LUGNET membership stuff, most importantly my password? Chris (24 years ago, 24-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) Have you forgotten your password? If so, write me an email from your primary address and I can now ask the server to generate a new one for you and send it directly to you via e-mail. You could think of it as a temporary new one which you (...) (24 years ago, 24-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Christopher L. Weeks

(...) Yup. (...) Done! Thank you very much. Chris (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Dylan Reardon

Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:G1EAr4.F49@lugnet.com... (...) stuff, (...) primary (...) send (...) one (...) Oh, hi Todd. I should have checked this NG before emailing you... Anyway, I emailed you about <thinking> 5 (?) (...) (24 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) Hmm, wait, now I'm confused. I don't see you listed. What is your member ID number? Anyway, by primary email I meant the first one of the (up to) three that you gave when you signed up to be a member. But I think maybe you're confusing (...) (24 years ago, 5-Oct-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Larry Pieniazek

(...) most (...) (24 years ago, 24-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Larry Pieniazek

(...) most (...) Me too. I've now forgotten all 3 of my passwords, including the two new ones that I worked very hard to come up with memorable phrases that I could remember and that passed that (*&)&@%&$# insanely strict password check. Anything I (...) (24 years ago, 24-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Kevin Loch

(...) ^^^...^^^ Ack! Don't you realize that's much more insecure than your semi-secure easially rememberable passwords? This is retarded. My banks and credit cards and online trading accounts don't require that much "security", why does my chat (...) (24 years ago, 24-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Kevin Loch

(...) Oops, with duplicate set numbers that might not be a good idea :) How about adding a UPC field to the db so we can use a CueCat? KL (24 years ago, 24-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) Internally, it uses a suffix on the set number to avoid ambiguities arising from duplicates issues of a number, for example: (4 URLs) three sets, each numbered 1974, within a larger value pack also numbered 1974 :-). You can add the _1 suffix (...) (24 years ago, 24-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) Of course not -- because that's patently false. Uhhh, if you chronically have trouble remembering good passwords, you should be writing them down and putting them somewhere *safe* that you trust -- like your dresser drawer at home, or a (...) (24 years ago, 24-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Geoffrey Hyde

Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:G1Evq8.A9o@lugnet.com... (...) 8-digit (...) if (...) at (...) minute, (...) And (...) card (...) One point to note, especially for anyone planning on visiting Australia. ATMs around here will (...) (24 years ago, 24-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Dan Jezek

(...) Wouldn't it be easier to e-mail the forgotten password to the e-mail address your members input upon registration? That e-mail could be intercepted but I don't think a lot of people would go into that kind of trouble to be able to look at (...) (24 years ago, 24-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) I started doing that about 2 weeks ago. It generates a password, sends an email with that password, then stores the encrypted password. The membership packet then contains a backup password. In the case of older members, or if someone deleted (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Kevin Loch

(...) Actually, all they need to know is my customer number and a PIN to view my account records. I would consider my bank account records much more valuable than my LUGNET profile, no offense :) If the concern is script kiddies cracking accounts, (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) ouch. How easy is it for a thief to get your customer number? How many digits is your PIN? (...) natch. :) (...) Disable accounts on repeated fails and you make it trivial to DoS someone. Disable IP addresses and you lock out the innocent on (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Joakim Olsson

Hi there! Excuse me if i am totally lost here... Is it not so that a 6 letter password containing letters from A to Z and 0 to 9, can have 36^6 different combinations and contains 48 bits in a unique order? A binary value containing 0 or 1 in 8 (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) 36^6 is about equal to 2^31. Maybe it was typical 5-character pw's that resulted in 24-26 bits of true information...I don't remember for sure, it was many months ago. OK, yes, <calculator poking> 36^5 is about equal to 2^26. Also, IIRC, I (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Geoffrey Hyde

I've been on a few BBSes, quite a while back now, and believe me, some of the passwords that I came up with were quite alphanumeric, and rather random. A hacker's chance of guessing a random, or even semi-random, password is therefore theoretically (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Kevin Loch

(...) Not if you only disable loggin in as that user from that ip. (...) I think a minimum of 6 characters is a good limit. It's the character diversity that is causeing problems. Also, you could make failed attempts take a few extra seconds to (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) Is there a way to tell if a given IP address is a shared proxy server or not? If you disable login access as one user from a given IP address, then you effectively disable login access as _all_ users from that IP address, because it would be (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Kevin Loch

(...) Um, yes I know that. It's also possible to generate "human random" dictionaries that speed up brute force of "strong" passwords where users are forced within certain limits. BTW, I wonder what the keyspace is of all (8 chars and less as (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Password checks (was: Re: LUGNET Memberships) —Todd Lehman

(...) (URL) [...] On the other hand, a server could probably get around that by (...) I'm very tempted to head in that direction. Even not relaxing the strictness of the validator, I think it would be wise. (...) Cooking hacking is the logical place (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: Password checks (was: Re: LUGNET Memberships) —Kevin Loch

(...) The BrickShelf uses the cookie returned *and* the ip address that the cookie was issued to for reauthenticate login. Nobody has complained about loosing login yet via multiple proxies (i.e. aol). Also, cookies can be made *much* more difficult (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: Password checks (was: Re: LUGNET Memberships) —Larry Pieniazek

(...) As is mine. Todd has one opinion of where that is. Some people think it is too strict. Some are happy. I wonder if any think it is too lenient? (...) I know it is affecting me. Todd sent me a new password and I set two more that hopefully I (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: Password checks (was: Re: LUGNET Memberships) —Todd Lehman

(...) I didn't plan for that. In the beginning, I honestly didn't think that anyone would ever forget their password (or at least not have it written down somewhere that they could find it). I'll have to come up with something. Since the pw's are (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: Password checks (was: Re: LUGNET Memberships) —Larry Pieniazek

(...) No that would work, I wrote down the password you sent me and the two new ones I chose and they are pretty memorable, I hope. Implement something that generates a new password AND wipes out ALL the old ones in one fell swoop. Then send me the (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: Password checks (was: Re: LUGNET Memberships) —Frank Filz

(...) A solution to this could be to do the following: - when someone asks for a password reset, create a new password for them, put it in the list, also put it in a special "reset account" password file (along with the ID). - when the user receives (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: Password checks (was: Re: LUGNET Memberships) —Steve Bliss

(...) Huh? Todd, I hope you meant to write, "I didn't think about dealing with people forgetting their passwords". People forget passwords *all* *the* *time*. That's why so many sites have such ridiculously unsecure password requirements -- so (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: Password checks (was: Re: LUGNET Memberships) —Todd Lehman

(...) No, I meant exactly that: I didn't think that anyone would ever (a) forget their password or (b) not be able to just go look it up. When you put it in a cookie, you don't even have to remember it beyond that, unless you move to different (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: Password checks (was: Re: LUGNET Memberships) —Todd Lehman

(...) But doesn't that make somebody have to log in again if they use *any* kind of non-static-IP connection -- i.e., a typical dial-up or DHCP connection -- and not limited only to shared proxy servers? If they're on a typical ISP dial-up PPP (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: Password checks (was: Re: LUGNET Memberships) —Todd Lehman

(...) I agree! In a cookie, you can put complete random garbage that only the authentication server knows how to interpret. And if certain bits contain an index, you can even use a one-time pad or other complex mapping to encrypt the data so that (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Matthew Miller

(...) My old bank (US Trust) used my social security number + PIN for phone access to my account. Eep. (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Dan Jezek

(...) I'm amazed on how complex and sophisticated the Lugnet password system is. There are the password suggestions, Password strength analyzer which even includes an internal dictionary and gives you the CPU time that it took to analyze the (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) Yup, it's a serious system. Most systems don't take pw issues seriously. (...) We'll see how many people find it funny nine months from now. --Todd (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Mike Faunce

"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:G1HDIu.J6p@lugnet.com... (...) other (...) I (...) So ... are you going to tell us what is going to happen nine months from now or just leave us hanging? IMHO, the password checker and system (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) A combination of things... first, by then there will be more things in place that will matter more; second, the pw validator will very likely be less stringent; third, I predict that within the next nine months, a major online banking site (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Kevin Loch

(...) Actually I found PayPal's pw filter to be fairly stringent. KL (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) What do you think about this?-- (URL) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Geoffrey Hyde

Todd - an interesting but minor question to these thread links - if I wanted the thread unraveled all the way back to it's source post, how would I do that? Cheers ... Geoffrey Hyde Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Thread views (was: Re: LUGNET Memberships) —Todd Lehman

(...) When you're viewing an article at the website (such as through one of the links as shown above), scroll down to the bottom of the page and click one of the "Entire Thread on One Page" links. You can see the thread in nested thread form or in (...) (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Dan Jezek

(...) I was thinking more from the perspective of what you are going to create that will have a span of 9 months and not what might happen on the internet outside of LUGNET in 9 months. This still doesn't explain why you have a sophisticated (...) (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

pw checking (was: Re: LUGNET Memberships) —Todd Lehman

(...) Well, enough new things that I think it will be hard for anyone to continue belittling the checking anymore. Plus, as I said before, it's possible (and likely, I hope) that the checking will be less stringent. Right now I'm guesstimating that (...) (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Matthew Miller

(...) I don't find it funny; I'm just glad it hasn't been a problem. It'd be nice to hack in some sort of GPG-based authentication system.... (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Kevin Loch

(...) Huh? Ther is only one thing I can think of that has a nine month completion cycle, and it doesn't have a thing to do with passwords. Could you elaborate? KL (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) LOL, no not that. :) --Todd (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Dan Jezek

(...) Maybe Todd will finally unveil his gigantic space minifig colony. He's been promising it since '98 .... That would be something to see! I'm not laughing any more :-O - Dan (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Space mining colony —Todd Lehman

(...) Still on the back burner. (URL) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.people)

Re: Space mining colony —Eric Joslin

(...) whatever you'd qualify them as that I've seen look ultra-sweet. But I'm hardly one to talk about low model output. I have at least three things I want to build in my head. Wait. I mean, I have at least three models in my head that I want to (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) That's a problem. It does fail too many good pw's, partially because it tries to be too clever in transmogrifications and 20 different language lookups in its dictionary of 3 million words. (It was just as easy to put in that many as it was to (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Dan Jezek

(...) ^^^...^^^ Ouch! I can only imagine the time it took you to key all that data in. (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Todd Lehman

(...) FTP standard ASCII text document, one word per line. Convert to ISO-8859-1 if necessary (character-based search & replace, quick). Feed to indexer via pipe. Walk away, sip coffee, come back later, it's all done. No typing. --Todd (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Larry Pieniazek

(...) Imagine it is all you *can* do, as Todd didn't actually do the typing, he said he got lists of words readily available from the 'net that are made available (by whom?) to aid in building stronger password checkers. (and also to aid in building (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Matthew Miller

(...) University of Oxford. <ftp://ftp.ox.ac.uk/...rdlists/>. Wordlists have non-password related uses too, apparently. :) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Larry Pieniazek

(...) What? You mean there's more to LUGNET than sparring about passwords and spam? As to the link, thanks, new I had scene it B4. I never knead dictionaries, personally, except when siteing to refute... Just ask me, I'll be glad to tell you wot a (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Password Tips —Kevin Loch

(...) I just figured out how to easially pass the LUGNET pw test. Use lots of special characters. This one: ^n).F6'%#*><}{#: scores a whopping 900% with no warnings. Just make sure you throw in a number a lower case letter and an upper case letter (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: Password Tips —Todd Lehman

(...) Gee, that was so funny I almost forgot to laugh. There are plenty of 6-character pw's that you can use that have 5 letters and one number or special character, and plenty of 7-character pw's that you can use that are all lowercase letters. I (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: Password Tips —Larry Pieniazek

(...) Easially? (...) Hey, we better enhance the tester to prevent that password, it's kind of sort of easy to remember. <GD&R> Seriously, I like the active anti cracker defense idea a lot better and I think that's the better way to solve the (...) (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Andrew G. Meyer

I don't know if this thread is still active, but it seems as if it is the best place to ask my question. I have created an email account for myself for the main purpose of doing LUGNET at school, but I don't know where to edit the user information (...) (19 years ago, 9-Apr-05, to lugnet.people)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Larry Pieniazek

(...) Try this link. (URL) (after waiting a day or so for one of us to process it) write any admin if you still have trouble. See the header of admin.general for our addresses (which group this is XFUT) It's not necessarily an easy link to find. (...) (19 years ago, 9-Apr-05, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)

Re: LUGNET Memberships —Mathew Clayson

(...) I can't get my password to work, how do I get a new password? Mathew Clayson member 2487 (18 years ago, 6-Dec-05, to lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.general)