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    New mod to double decker passenger train —James Mathis
   I sure am glad every else keeps posting interesting items to this trains group. I've been pretty uninpired lately. Thanks for keeping the reading good. I've just got a modification to my model of a German red double decker passenger train car and (...) (24 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —John Warren
     (...) James, Glad to finally hear from you again. I see you took my advice on lowering the roofline. That looks so much better. Now it's a "good lookin" train. I know why you haven't posted in three months. That's what married life will do to you! (...) (24 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —John Neal
     Welcome back, James:-) The first time I saw your red double decker I wondered to myself what the sloped red window would look like instead of the slanted glass pieces. Perhaps the angel is too sharp. At the very least it would give you nice (...) (24 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —Tony Priestman
      On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, John Neal (<38891BB1.735F7B6C@...west.net>) wrote at 02:53:57 (...) Eurotrash? Surely, there's more skill in getting detail into a small model than messing about with overbloated Tonka trains :-) (24 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) Do you mean his 8wides? I tend to agree, and it wasn't till recently that I realised it... 8wides make modeling too easy, you get more room to work in. That's fundamentally what bothers me, he's cheating. Or do you mean the fact that US proto (...) (24 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —Tony Priestman
        On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, Larry Pieniazek (<3889AFA6.279A1D8F@...ager.net>) wrote at 13:24:54 (...) The latter, I'm afraid :-) I don't think John's cheating: just playing to a different set of rules. I must confess to the attraction of 8 wide. Although (...) (24 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —John Neal
         (...) Funny you should mention 10. I started work last night on a 14 wide box car scaled to Belvillians and using G scale wheels. I custom built the trucks out of LEGO, but will need to <gasp> glue a few pieces in order to hold the wheels in place (...) (24 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —Tony Priestman
        On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, John Neal (<3889D95C.A3177C3F@...west.net>) wrote at 16:22:54 (...) windows are similar sizes, but the bigger American coach bodies make them look smaller. Which is what you said :-) I seem to recall 70' as a coach length in the (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —John Neal
         (...) These coaches were about 80 feet (25 m), so they were *long*. When I build 8 wide, I figure 1 stud to 1 ft, and still my coaches are only 60 studs long. I'd love to make them 80, but they wouldn't be able to handle the LEGO track curves very (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —Tony Priestman
         On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, John Neal (<388BA775.B41630A@uswest.net>) wrote at 01:15:05 (...) Actually, on thinking again, it's probably 57-60' for older stuff, and 70' for newer. I might have a go at a Mk I BR coach, just to see what it looks like :-) (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
        
             Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —John Neal
          (...) Oh sure, but using the wagon plates is IMO just more efficient, uses less bricks and is lighter (they are heavy enough as it is;-) -John (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —Mike Poindexter
         John Neal <johnneal@uswest.net> wrote in message news:388BA775.B41630...est.net... (...) build 8 (...) long. (...) track (...) being (...) John, since they are 10' wide and 8 studs, shouldn't 1 stud = 1.25 feet? That will cut down the length and (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —John Neal
         (...) Touché;) The only problem with 1 stud equaling 1.25 feet is that standard track gauge in North America is 4 feet 8.5 inches, and the gauge of our track is almost 5 studs, which would translate in a gauge of about 6'!! By rights we *should* be (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —Mike Poindexter
         John Neal <johnneal@uswest.net> wrote in message news:388CDC3B.3A3FC2...est.net... (...) ends up (...) proportioned. (...) leader of (...) track (...) rights we (...) If we went with strictly the track guage, then we will be destined to problems of (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —John Neal
         (...) That's what's kewl about my 14 wide-- Belville children (As adults) are just the right scale! (...) I like to think it is because of the extra amount of gravity in the Minifig world;-) (...) Well, 1:48 *is* O scale, and 8 studs wide is (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —John Neal
        (...) lol Fundamentally you don't know what you're talking about;-) No, building *smaller* is easier I'm afraid. You have a lot fewer options building smaller, and thus less possibilities for creative building. [1] How many people have built (...) (24 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) My point seems to have been missed here. The smaller you build, the more creativity is required, because you are more constrained. Microfig scale is very very tough and requires extreme creativity because you really really need to know your (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —John Neal
         (...) lol It cuts *both* ways. As you said, micro management requires more cerebral action than building action. Building on a large scale requires cerebral action as well as creativity-on-the-build action. Both are creative processes. I was simply (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —Tony Priestman
       On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, Larry Pieniazek (<388A44BC.CDEF4748@...ager.net>) wrote at 00:01:00 (...) Ah. But there is a difference between 'I recognise that' and 'It is a good model of that'. Yes, you are right. It is harder to make something recognisable (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —John Neal
       (...) LOL That's funny that you used "Tonka", because the Tonka factory is only a few miles from where I live (I taken kids there for factory tours). The factory is in a suburb called "Minnetonka". Perhaps now you can see where they got their (...) (24 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —Tony Priestman
      On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, John Neal (<3889DA15.2C6AC605@...west.net>) wrote at 16:25:59 (...) Presumably someone was already using Minnetoys? :-) Actually Tonka describes their product rather well. (24 years ago, 23-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —James Mathis
     (...) sloped (...) angel (...) to (...) What do you mean by "sloped red window"? Do you suggest uses 1x2 brick hinges below regular 1x4x3 red train windows and then "hinging" them to create the slope for the window? I can see how I could do the (...) (24 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —John Neal
       (...) I had tried using the 1x2 hinge brick to get a slope effect on the streamlined boiler of my Hiawatha Loco but abandoned the idea for using the 2x2x3 extreme slope brick, but that is a different story. What I am suggesting is using this (...) (24 years ago, 22-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —James Mathis
      (...) hinges (...) this (...) roofline (...) this (...) make a greater than 6 stud wide train set. Hmmm, but I don't have *that many* of those style windows, and even fewer in red. (...) in (...) other. (...) Very nice. I should remember "who do (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —Reinhard "Ben" Beneke
      Dear James M., I just wanted to say again, you are one of my personal "gods of Lego®" (next to Eric Brok)! Please go on with your design of european "trash". I rally enjoy your page whenever I visit it, or show it to a friend of mine. And of course (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: New mod to double decker passenger train —Aaron Bergman
   (...) group. (...) Looks Nice Send it to Lego, I think they would be interested in something like that. It keeps up in the old fashioned train they put out recently. Aaron (24 years ago, 23-Jan-00, to lugnet.trains)
 

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