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(...) Excellent! Two years ago Matt said: > It's written in Microsoft Visual C++ with MFC 4.0. > > I would be more than happy for anyone to volunteer to take over the future > development of Track Designer. I am sure there are many features that (...) (23 years ago, 11-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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Rick Clark wrote in message <3C8C2E4E.6090602@no...ol.com>... (...) that they were planning to do some updating of the program. This hasn't happened yet, but who knows, it may be in progress behind the scenes. It would be good to contact James and (...) (23 years ago, 11-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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The NGLTC does now host the Train Depot, but we have nothing to do with the code upgrade to Track Designer, we just agreed to host the application. I know when we took over the hosting of the site that there was some talk of other taking over the (...) (23 years ago, 11-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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No disrespect to Matt, but how about a rewrite. Couple thoughts: TD3D (Track Designer 3D). This was very loosely suggested at the LDraw round table at BricksWest (maybe by Jake ???). I'm not at all suggesting track design in MLCAD, but rather a (...) (23 years ago, 11-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Did you get a response? I sent off an email to him and will see what happens. Martin (23 years ago, 11-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) I wouldn't contemplate a rewrite at this stage, without seeing the original code. It may be possible to do what you ask and more, with the code that has already been written. A lot of the fundamental work has been done by Matt, that would take (...) (23 years ago, 11-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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I too had though about a complete re-write, but it's so hard to get motivated to take on the project when you see how much stuff is packed into the existing TD. First I make a list of what I'd like to have in such an application, then I list what (...) (23 years ago, 11-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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No I haven't heard from him. The only email address I have for him is train_depot@yahoo.com jt (...) (23 years ago, 11-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Sorry, haven't been very active recently. We just had baby number 3 arrive. My first little girl! I do have the source code somewhere, I sent it to someone ages ago, I forget who it was and I never heard from them again. Don't know if it was (...) (23 years ago, 12-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Congratulations, now you will have even less spare time on your hands :-) (...) Great news. (...) Well, hopefully this time, we can get something happening. Martin (23 years ago, 12-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Congrats on the new addition! (...) Sounds good, I haven't heard anything from the people you gave it to so I too assume that they changed their minds on the upgrades. I would like to have a copy to archive and maybe if I get some "spare" time (...) (23 years ago, 12-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) According to this thread, it looks like the source may have gone to Leonardo. (URL) think he still monitors the CAD groups so he might see this. I'm sure this has probably been discussed to death, but why not create a sourceforge account and (...) (23 years ago, 12-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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I got the source, started making changes to be able to run it under linux but when I graduated and started working my free time was reduced drastically and I couldn't continue working on it. :( Leonardo (...) (23 years ago, 12-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Do you still have the zip file I sent you? That would save me having to redo what I did for you already. And my memory would have been better back then! Matt (23 years ago, 12-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Personally, I think a rewrite would be a bad idea, although some reorganizing of the code might be good. (keep in mind I haven't seen the code) Typically what happens in largish software projects is they go along for a few years, adding (...) (23 years ago, 13-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Run under linux? music to my ears... Rather than move to .NET would you (Matt) consider moving it to a more cross-platform system, such as Java? --Bill. (23 years ago, 13-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) While I like Java more than most, that would be a complete rewrite, ne? And I have to agree with Kevin D. (and Joel, his reference, whom I've enjoyed reading for years now) that a complete rewrite is hardly ever a good idea. But then I'm an (...) (23 years ago, 13-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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At this point I really don't mind what happens to Track Designer, I have zero time to spend on it. I'm basically going to open it up to the community and you guys can do whatever you want with the source, modify it, rewrite it, port it or put the (...) (23 years ago, 13-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Uh Oh! This thread got awfully quiet all of a sudden. I take it that means nobody wants to volunteer to create the SourceForge project... If so, I'll reluctantly volunteer to do it because I'd like to tinker with the source myself someday. I (...) (23 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) If I still have the source I can make the SF project and upload it (provided that I get permission). My first goal was to move away from GDI and use OpenGL to draw the track layout to make it possible to port to other platforms (I managed to (...) (23 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) I don't think it is anything to worry about. We (well I am anyway) waiting for Matt and/or Leonardo to sort out the source code, then as a group we should decide what to do with it. Sourceforge sounds like a good idea, we just need to work out (...) (23 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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It has been a few weeks now since the subject of track designer updates was brought up, has anything come out of it yet? Has anybody heard anything new from Matt about releasing the source code to individuals, sourceforge or whatever? Martin (23 years ago, 7-Apr-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Huh? I could swear that just a few weeks ago you recommended waiting around patiently for something to happen. (URL) decided to take your advice. Perhaps everyone else did too. ;) Don (23 years ago, 7-Apr-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Well, he was waiting.. but now perhaps he's wondering whether the necessary first step is going to happen or not? That step is Matt (or whoever?) finding the code, right, not setting up the SourceForge project. But you still could do that (...) (23 years ago, 7-Apr-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Matt would need a least a week to sort things out, so I wasn't worried at that stage. (...) That is correct, I thought that Matt may have said that he had found it by now, and given it to someone. I didn't expect him to set up a sourceforge (...) (23 years ago, 7-Apr-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Weelll... DO you have the source, in case Matt can't find it? (don't laugh, I lost some source to a project I worked years on... it's not so much LOST as it is on one of several hundred floppies but not sure WHICH one)... (23 years ago, 8-Apr-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Yes, but in fact the project had already languished for a year, and both Leonardo and Matt admitted being too busy to work on it. New babies, dot com hours, and real life in general can be very distracting. It seemed to me that an opportunity (...) (23 years ago, 8-Apr-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Heh. If it's on floppy, it might very well be lost by now... Steve (23 years ago, 8-Apr-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Apparently you've seen my basement! (23 years ago, 8-Apr-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) You mean your basement is actually visible now??????? Heck, I thought your house was just built on LEGO boxes 8?) ROSCO (23 years ago, 8-Apr-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad, lugnet.fun)
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(...) Wish I had dot com hours, they have to be better than video game company hours. :) (...) Good news, last night I was able to find the source package at home but my ISP was not very helpful and I couldn't upload it anywhere. I'll try again (...) (23 years ago, 9-Apr-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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Tried to create a sourceforge project last night but got stuck on the license part. Does Matt still reads this or does anyone have his current email address ? I'd like to hear from him what kind of license he wants to use. Leonardo (...) (23 years ago, 12-Apr-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Good idea to check on the license. I forget, what are the choices at the SourceForge? In this post from a month ago he was still listed as "Matthew Bates" <train_depot@yahoo.com> (URL)In lugnet.trains, Leonardo Zide writes: (...) (23 years ago, 12-Apr-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Basically all open source licenses. If no license is acceptable then I can talk to the person who hosts my website/cvs server/mailing lists and ask him to host TD there too. Leonardo (23 years ago, 12-Apr-02, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) It's been a while now, so I thought I'd check before I completely forget about this... Any progress on the license/hosting issue? Don (23 years ago, 6-May-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) If you don't have the time etc. to set it up at sourceforge, just email it to me and I will set it up. (...) A very long quite while. I was thiking the same thing myself on the weekend. (...) Like I said, just email it to me, and I will put it (...) (23 years ago, 7-May-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) OK, digging up an old thread here... WE WANT TD SOURCE CODE!!!!!!!! Matt? Leonardo? Anyone? I know this is an old thread (maybe dead) but I have to ask for the ten thousanth time for fellow trainheads (and myself). May we (...) (21 years ago, 16-Aug-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) I agree it would be nice, but with the advent of TrackDraw (coming soon we all hope, the demo that Cary gave at BF was amazing) it's not as important any more, except as a way to determine what the format of .tdl files are so that an importer (...) (21 years ago, 16-Aug-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Actually, depending on how well its written, it might be possible to port it to linux or something. I know that there is some stuff for doing .NET on linux but: 1.its not finished and doesnt do everything microsoft version does 2.its likely (...) (21 years ago, 17-Aug-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:HJpp7t.166s@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) all (...) more, (...) Larry is right, while usefule TD's time has come and I expect Cary's TrackDraw application will be far (...) (21 years ago, 17-Aug-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) I'm not sure which you are referring to, Track Designer or Track Draw... As for Track Designer, even with the source, I expect it would be a very hard port to any non Windows platform. I believe it was written in Visual Basic or Visual C++ (I (...) (21 years ago, 17-Aug-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Track Designer is written in Visual C++ and probobly makes heavy use of windows GDI and user calls to make it work. However, there are Open Source libraries available that essentially provide these calls and map them to similar calls on a (...) (21 years ago, 17-Aug-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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(...) I was unaware that was the point you were making. But if it is, (I was confused, your post read like a multiplatform rant rather than a request to get the source available) why yes, I agree. It's been a year since the community last tried to (...) (21 years ago, 17-Aug-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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In lugnet.trains, Jonathan Wilson wrote: ... (...) ... IMO, that's a pretty amusing statement. Without you having seen either the source to Track Designer or TrackDraw, I think it is a reach to say which would be easier to port to Linux. TrackDraw (...) (21 years ago, 17-Aug-03, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
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