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    Great train related web sites? —Jake McKee
   Can anyone give me a few URLs of great train related sites. Sites with pics, History, fan sites, etc is what I am looking for. Thanks in advance! Jake --- Jake McKee AFOL LUGNET Member #211 (23 years ago, 24-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Great train related web sites? —John Neal
     *LEGO* train related sites, or just train sites? If just trains, you can find (...) (23 years ago, 24-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Great train related web sites? —Jake McKee
      (...) Jake --- Jake McKee AFOL LUGNET Member #211 (23 years ago, 24-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Great train related web sites? —Katie Dokken
      (...) The NMRA is a good site except, the only problem with the NMRA website is that Large Scale links are very very lacking. There are some there but only a tiny fraction of all the large scale websites that are available on the internet. But then (...) (23 years ago, 24-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Great train related web sites? —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) Well if I want proto photos or a close approximation thereof, I sort of don't care what scale they are as long as they are *to scale* or close. (1) I can build from an HO pic just as easily as from a proto pic.... (2) 1 - while what I render (...) (23 years ago, 24-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Great train related web sites? —Eric Kingsley
       (...) Well if good *to scale* models of prototypes are what you want this is a site I use all the time (I also head to their factory store as well as they are the next town over). They have some incredible G Scale models. (URL) example here is a (...) (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: Great train related web sites? —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) SD since it has 6 axles. :-) (...) They look nice but I am not totally convinced that using G models as your prototype is prudent, G has some distortion, no matter what you do, because of the gauge/scale issues with it. You'll be close but if (...) (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: Great train related web sites? —John Neal
         (...) Oh, Eric, you mean *14 wide*....>;^D (...) Lar is correct. There isn't even a particular "G" scale, although there is an effort to codify under the term "Large Scale" (LS). G scale can refer to 1:22.5 (LGB), 1:25, or 1:29 (USA). The correct (...) (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: Great train related web sites? —Katie Dokken
        (...) 1:22.5 (...) 1:32. You forgot 1:20.3, 1:24, and a small smattering of 1:30. Also, many more manufacturers than LGB and USA Trains. And many of us "large scalers" don't appreciate the efforts to "codify" our scale names under the NMRA. We like (...) (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: Great train related web sites? —John Neal
         (...) Yikes, sensitive subject;-) Hey Katie, I'd *love* to hear more about your hobby! What scale *do* you model, and have you ever considered modeling LEGO trains to G scale? I have done some of this and intent to do a lot more, and using Belville (...) (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: Great train related web sites? Now: G Scale —Katie Dokken
        (...) Actually, yes. Not for me though. I could really care less. But for many of the others in "G scale", "Large scale" or whatever, they really get their noses out of joint over it. And when they explain their reasoning I see their point but still (...) (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: Great train related web sites? Now: G Scale —Christopher Masi
         (...) Sounds like the great 8- vs. 6-wide debate (no debate is to polite word) squabbling that goes on around here. (...) snip We seem to be a bit friendlier around here than some of the folk populating the other parts of the internet, and John (...) (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: Great train related web sites? Now: G Scale —John Neal
         (...) lol I guess we know why those yahoos post there;-) (...) I'll tell you what. I am so tired and bored with people who have such narrow POVs with respect to LEGO. Paint your LEGO? Decal it? Cut it? Combine it with Bestlock (well, okay, even *I* (...) (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: Great train related web sites? Now: G Scale —Katie Dokken
         (...) in (...) Ya, that was sorta my take on it all. I just took my toys and went home. Some people just don't play well with others. (...) you (...) Thanks! Yes, once upon a time I had one of the largest Playmobil collections around but I don't (...) (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
        
             Re: Great train related web sites? Now: G Scale —Frank Filz
         (...) as (...) Some (...) cheap (...) couple (...) Ooh, I really didn't need to see those pictures... I keep stealing glances at the Playmobile toys. They just look so nice, and mixing them with large scale trains ooh ahh (of course Playmobile's own (...) (23 years ago, 26-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
        
             Re: Great train related web sites? Now: G Scale —Katie Dokken
         (...) Frank, Thanks! I have other pictures too but I have a major space limit on that server and I'm already over.... I used to buy many of the Playmobile train cars to "kitbash" and make other cars from them. They were good cheap parts. LGB used to (...) (23 years ago, 27-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: Neals Baits, I'm biting. —John Kelly III
         ...snipped until the part where John goes fishing... (...) ...snipped some more... Okay, I'll bite. I've never had a problem with people deciding to decal, cut, or use other bricks. All I've said is that it's dishonest then to call it a "Lego" (...) (23 years ago, 26-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: Neals Baits, I'm biting. —Larry Pieniazek
        In lugnet.trains, John Kelly III writes: <snip> (...) I read through this fairly carefully, and unless J3 is saying that J2 is saying that people should say that their creation is "pure" when it isn't, I do not think these two are disagreeing. And I (...) (23 years ago, 26-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: Great train related web sites? —Eric Kingsley
        (...) Bah! You are right I was just tierd. I had been looking at GP9's just previously and must have been confused getting myself... :-) (...) I think both have their merits. "G" or "Large Scale" as John more aptly puts it is nice because of its (...) (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: Great train related web sites? —Larry Pieniazek
        (...) There's a perfect example, thanks Eric! I agree with you, you *need* to make things selectively compressed in length, but my point is that I prefer to make that decision starting from an accurate depiction, instead of thinking that something (...) (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: Great train related web sites? —Katie Dokken
       (...) Hmmmmm..... Are you trying to say that Lego is to_scale? So what scale is Lego exactly? What gauge? And do the scale and gauge match? Not all "G" scale is distorted. There are some incredibly talented people hand laying their own track and (...) (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: Great train related web sites? —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) Sorry if I wasn't clear. I am NOT saying Lego is to scale. I am just saying that I prefer to choose where to introduce distortion rather than working from an already distorted model. Now, the amount of distortion in, say, that model that Eric (...) (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Great train related web sites? —Shaun Sullivan
       (...) Hi Larry et. al., There are some pics of a model on my page, but they were all downloaded from the 'net. The only vehicle I've done that I *did* have a model to go from was the Sd.Kfz 222 armored car, which coincidentally might be the one I (...) (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Great train related web sites? —Josh Baakko
     (...) NMRA home: (URL) LUGNET Member #211 (23 years ago, 24-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Great train related web sites? —Suzanne D. Rich
     (...) some links here (left half of page): (URL) (23 years ago, 24-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Great train related web sites? —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Those are mostly LEGO(r) sites so maybe we should add J2's nmra ref and this one: www.trainweb.com which is also really good especially if you want roster shots of us proto locomotives... (23 years ago, 24-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Great train related web sites? —Suzanne D. Rich
     (...) Excellent, thanks. Any link requests/suggestions are very welcome. When I just went to the LUGNET trains page and looked at the links there, I realized our sidebar looked pretty skimpy, and Will's link didn't work, so I'm updating the page (...) (23 years ago, 24-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Great train related web sites? —Cary Clark
     Jake, I've started work on a Lugnet/Trains FAQ, but I've stalled. I should get back to it and finish it up. Anyway, here's one more answer: (URL) McKee" <sink@countersinkdg.com> wrote in message news:GDuprA.C5u@lugnet.com... Can anyone give me a few (...) (23 years ago, 24-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Great train related web sites? —Huw Millington
      "Jake McKee" <sink@countersinkdg.com> wrote in message news:GDuprA.C5u@lugnet.com... (...) pics, (...) If you want pictures of British prototype wagons including lots of 4 wheeled ones, look no futher than my own humble effort at (...) (23 years ago, 24-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Great train related web sites? —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Why would Jake want those?? :-) He is building REAL trains, not eurotrash. <grins, ducks and runs far, far away> Seriously, your site ought to be in the proto section of the links being collected. Fascinating stuff. Are you getting hits from (...) (23 years ago, 24-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Great train related web sites? —Harvey Henkelman
      (...) (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Great train related web sites? —Huw Millington
       Larry Pieniazek <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GDv0Ew.Itu@lugnet.com... (...) wheeled (...) www.brickset.com/wagons. (...) Not that many -- I think there's a few regular visitors, mainly modellers. When I mentioned it here last (...) (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Great train related web sites? —Jason J. Railton
     (...) Yeah, he wants American style wagons... To go with his MOT. <skips off in opposite direction, then breaks into sprint when out of sight> (...) There's some real curios in there, of which Huw has done some good versions of himself. At least you (...) (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Great train related web sites? —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) What's MOT? Ministry of Transport? We don't have one of those (but I used to listen to Ministry). (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Great train related web sites? —Jason J. Railton
     (...) The... um... custom trains... all say 'My Own Train' on the box. <ducks>. Jason J Railton (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Great train related web sites? —Christopher Tracey
   (...) (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Great train related web sites? —Huw Millington
      Christopher Tracey <ctracey@enviroweb.org> wrote in message news:3B0E6328.E2A923...web.org... (...) Huw (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Great train related web sites? —Huw Millington
    Christopher Tracey <ctracey@enviroweb.org> wrote in message news:3B0E6328.E2A923...web.org... (...) (URL) ? In the UK, the maximum tonnage per axle is 25.5, so our largest bogie tanks are 102t (metric) while the 4-wheelers are 51t. Huw (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
 

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