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Re: Neals Baits, I'm biting.
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Sat, 26 May 2001 01:21:10 GMT
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...snipped until the part where John goes fishing...
In lugnet.trains, John Neal writes:
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> I'll tell you what. I am so tired and bored with people who have such narrow POVs
> with respect to LEGO. Paint your LEGO? Decal it? Cut it? Combine it with
> Bestlock (well, okay, even *I* draw the line there;-) But seriously, I don't
> care. It's a toy. If someone wants to remain "pure" (use *only* LEGO parts, no
> cutting, decals, LEGO-only string, etc, etc), more power to them. *But it doesn't
> make what they are doing any more valid than what some brick-cutter is doing!*
> Because the fact is, nobody really cares what other people do with their bricks;
> they only care what *they* do with *their* bricks.
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> We like to joke around here in trains and elsewhere about such topics, because we
> all know that it doesn't matter; it's just a toy.
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> > > (I utilize G scale track, trucks and couplers)
> >
> > Exactly why I was told that it was a "non" topic. Using G scale trucks
> > violated the "sanctity of Lego brick" or something.
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> <shaking head> "sanctity of Lego brick" that is a load of B as in B, and S as in
> S.... I suppose that the trains that run at LLC, for example, somehow violate
> this sanctity as well (non-LEGO track, trucks, and couplers... Oh, but wait, maybe
> TLC gets *special dispensation* because they *are* LEGO???)
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> Well, even talking about such a non-issue is a waste, so I'll stop:-) But I'd
> love to mix it up with some purists sometime!
...snipped some more...
Okay, I'll bite.
I've never had a problem with people deciding to decal, cut, or use other
bricks. All I've said is that it's dishonest then to call it a "Lego"
train. I don't care if that's what you'd like to call it, it just that I won't.
Do I have differing shades of how I feel about this? Sure. Decals to add
details that are obviously details and not Lego doesn't bother me. Your
G-scale couplers or Play Mobile figures don't really bother me either.
There isn't a deception that you did that piece of the work inside of the
Lego medium.
What bothers me most is when there is a cut or a decal built to work around
a shortcoming of the medium. If you're not up front about that in your
models when you say it's a "Lego" model, then maybe it bothers you too, or
you'd be more up front about it. Does the medium work for all models? Of
course not. The same way a watercolor isn't always the best medium either.
Taking a photograph and calling it a watercolor doesn't make it so however.
Of course you're free to call it a watercolor, just don't be upset when I
won't, because in the end you're right, it's just a toy.
Does it make a purist? Maybe. Does it make me (or Lego) a hypocrite for
using steel enforcements, cutting/drilling bricks and then claiming that
children could build the same models? Maybe. For Lego, their excuse was
that they always built the model first without glue and without steel. (For
a refresher, I noticed that my old account has not been deactivated yet,
take a look at http://www.skypoint.com/~jkelly69/creation.htm )
I don't think Lego is dishonest about the pieces they use in creating
models. The pieces they use that are not Lego are pretty obviously so.
(You use pretty much the same standard with your "G" scale models.) The
colors maybe I could be a little less forgiving of Lego. When we were
building models we were told that only the theme parks were allowed off
colors. Of course since then Lego's made a lot of changes and now some of
those forbidden colors are available retail. But when we built a model, one
of the checks was if all of the pieces we had used where available in the
last ten years. If they weren't, we weren't allowed to use them.
But, like you say, to each their own. We don't have to agree.
-j3
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| In lugnet.trains, John Kelly III writes: <snip> (...) I read through this fairly carefully, and unless J3 is saying that J2 is saying that people should say that their creation is "pure" when it isn't, I do not think these two are disagreeing. And I (...) (23 years ago, 26-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
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| (...) lol I guess we know why those yahoos post there;-) (...) I'll tell you what. I am so tired and bored with people who have such narrow POVs with respect to LEGO. Paint your LEGO? Decal it? Cut it? Combine it with Bestlock (well, okay, even *I* (...) (23 years ago, 25-May-01, to lugnet.trains)
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