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(...) Yes, I'll agree that the US doesn't really do four wheel vehicles However I have never really thought of the Lego wheelsets as being European as they have coil springs when the style of suspension with W irons represented had/have leaf springs (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Well it would please the Daoist in me at least, if not the AdultFOL... Jason Railton (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) And what did 19th century American wheels look like? What you're saying is, it doesn't look like anything current. Jason R (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) American themed, European themed... at one level I don't care. Whatever LEGO produces, I (we) can do better(1). So any set is good, regardless of how it looks as a set, *IF* it has good parts. And I agree that this set looks like it will have (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) The question of Christian is revealing that the target audience for the TTX is clearly North American (initially desired by TLC or not). I mean european (non AFOL - the main part of TLC customers) audience don't know TTX, and have never seen a (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Practically every US stock car runs on Bettendorf trucks, which resemble this (that Ross created): (URL) The TLG trucks are designed to resemble more of the single axle type for European stock cars. JOHN (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) American trucks don't have wheel level individual springs. The individual wheels are typically unsprung, and ride in a truck frame that has springs either at the center beam (for freight) or at multiple places in a larger truck frame (for (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Brickshelf?(1) Seriously, I think OnDrew did a boxcar with a flag motif, that might be what you are thinking of. 1 - couldn't resist. (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) That's one interpretation. I'm not sure I agree, though. Another one is that it means NON transportation companies, that is, lessors and shippers. X is often appended to reporting marks(1) for equipment owned by NON transportation companies to (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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TLG made 30 years or so worth of Euro style trains, time for the Americans to get a little attention. This set rocks! Looks spot on for the real thing, rivet counters be damned. :) Must...buy...more...TRAINS!!!1 -Stefan- (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I'll give you the buffers, but I don't see that the wheelsets are particularly European, in what way do you mean? Tim (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Yes, they were formerly know as "Trailer Train" (switching to TTX in 1991). The "X" is commonly used in the rail industry to indicate the word "transportation". HTH, JOHN (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) (for those that don't get the reference, TT is one of the "Classic" scales in Model Railroading, along with: - N 1:160 - HO 1:87 - S 1:64 - O 1:48 Out of those 5, it's probably the least popular or least well represented by manufacturers. In (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Please no! No more American proto....I'm sick of it. The Santa Fe and BNSF locomotives are cool, don't get me wrong. They're the most detailed and realistic Lego Trains ever made. They also represent a commitment to the train line beyond the (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I was actually looking for a reefer (or even a boxcar or anything) with a big Stars and Stripes on the side, I'm sure I've seen one somewhere (might even have been a loco) Anyone know where to find it? And appologies for the above (slaps self (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Oh, please. Yeah, it is "American themed" all right-- with euro-style buffers and euro-style wheels. And didn't the last "American themed" loco (the BNSF) come with a brand new train element-- a modern, European buffer? I'll trade you. Let TLG (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) And here I was all set to start pushing for more European designs, but if you really want the reefer instead... :) Jake --- Jake McKee Community Liaison LEGO Community Team (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) "TTX Company provides railcars and related freight car management services to the North American rail industry." From (URL) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Its like 1:120 scale modeling, but with stronger frames and chunky tires Oh no, thats BMX ;-) Tim (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) This one (URL) ? ;-) Tim (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Call me ignorant, but what the heck is this "TTX", anyway? A kind of track gauge? Wondering, Christian Treczoks (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Wow! Great! Another American themed addition to trains. That should go down well with all those USofAFOLs. Let's put some flags out to celebrate. British flag, no, French, German, no good. Oh, no, that one's Australian... European... Oh (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Hey you leave Bomonga out of this! I am just waiting on a set like (URL) this> to come out ;) But ya, trains are ok as long as they are in a nice town layout! The other Mark (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Hey now, don't begrudge us our measily few train sets... not with all the Toa Lhikan Kikanalo Gaaki Rahaga Pouks Kualus Norik Bomonga Iruini Vakama Nokama Hordika Whenua Onewa Matau Nuju Rhotuka Panrahk Lerahk Guurahk Vorahk Turahk Vhisola (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) I don't know how long this will last or if the offer has expired. Someone from the Gateway Lego Users Group noticed this offer and sent the following info out on the group list. --- In GtwLug... Blackrock <blackrock@y...> wrote: (...) (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Hey look! Another train! Who would have ever guessed?!? ;) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Can you give any more details about this bulk track purchase thing you mentioned? Rafe (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Agreed. The more rolling stock, the better. I was at a train store the other day and marvelled at the literally hundreds of cars available in different gauges. More L gauge stuff is only good. Thanks Jake and all who helped put this together. (...) (19 years ago, 3-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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Ok... the set is very cool looking. Great work LEGO®. However, I do think the set needs at least one or two train minifigs with TTX or BNSF logo stickers or even printed on the minifigs. The reasons is I am thinking is... 1) There are LEGO fans who (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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Even though I am a committed 8 wider, I love this new container car (and the BNSF which preceded it). This set (and the newer BNSF) actually creates in me a dilemma. On the one hand, I want to show off my building prowess by constructing 8 wide (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Cute set, but I question the 'play value'. No minifig, nothing to put *into* the containers, no crane to load and unload them -- it's just something to go around the track. A bit juniorized for us die-hard Train heads, but I think the average (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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Thanks Jake! This is a great looking set, especially needed for a Monday. And this, after finding out there is now a discount on bulk track purchases in one of the online catalogs! And, yes, I am willing to be counted as a sucker. Considering all (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) This was something that caught me off-guard at Celebration III in Indy. Certainly 99.9% of the folks there were Star Wars fans, yet the LEGO booth was hopping, selling product like crazy. The ISD sold out - they were taking orders to be (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Thanks for the announcement and ILTCO pictures Mike! We were just discussing the lack of new trains this year at our RichLug meeting on Saturday. Low and behold a new Intermodal Double-Stack Car!!! Now I've got a reason to scan S&H weekly for (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Mark, the reason I took this personally is because I was one of the people making this decision. I know it sometimes seems like the LEGO Group is some big, cold, floating entity in the sky, but it's a group of people just like any community. (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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<snip> (...) Marc, I think maybe you need to understand the sheer expense involved in setting up a production line specifically for parts not currently in stock. I know of one example where some basic bricks and plates were needed in a slightly (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I too was admiring the clear bricks--I thought I saw a clear 1 x 8 technic brick! clear technic bricks!! Imagine the go-cart I could make then!! (URL) K -who is looking forward to purchasing a few of these container cars to add to the layout (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.publish.photography, lugnet.trains)
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(...) Jake, I wish you hadn't turned this into a personal issue when it is a corporate policy issue. Do you see the words "Jake McKee" anywhere in my post? Now the "rally round Jake" LUGNET defense mechanism has been activated, and anything I say (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) It's not the upfront money, it's the projected sales that determine whether a new mold is produced. Trains, while popular among AFOLs, just don't sell well among Lego's target market. I imagine that the projected sales for 10170 is at most (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.theory, FTX)
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What a pleasant way to start off Monday! I'm looking forward to this set. Aside from the set itself, what I find interesting is the technique used in the photography. Check out the clear bricks used for supporting the freight bodies... (URL) the (...) (19 years ago, 2-May-05, to lugnet.publish.photography, lugnet.trains)
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