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Re: TPM Rules
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Date: 
Thu, 1 Jun 2000 15:05:04 GMT
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In lugnet.starwars, Shaun Sullivan writes:

  I could go on, but it's getting sort of late. It may seem that I'm
nitpicking, but these things really bothered me while watching the film.  I
know George is selling to the N64 generation, and he's not concerned with
nebulous issues like strategy and logic, but come on, George!

Lots of reasonable questions - see my other post ('what's wrong with TPM'
thread) for the long version of why I see all these questions and criticisms
as moot.  I really think that considering the movie as a film is erroneous,
and it should more appropriately be considered a piece of art.  Which you can
still criticize of course, but it's always pretty self-defeating; "the artist
should or shouldn't have done this" doesn't hold much water when you're
referring to an individual expression of a vision.  It's kind of like saying
"your opinion is wrong", or "you shouldn't like that color".

Oh, come on!  Calling it a piece of art sounds a lot like a smokescreen tactic
intended to remove the film from discussions of quality.  Even if it is "a
piece of art," why can’t it also be considered a film, which it most certainly
is?  You are, in essence, saying that art cannot be evaluated in any way,
which is absolutely untrue.
Beyond that, I’m also trying to consider it as a piece of literature,
which can be analyzed and discussed rationally and in terms of plot, story,
character, narrative, pace, voice.  My points, and my consistent complaints,
deal with these matters.  I would feel comfortable discussing the novel in
these terms; why wouldn’t I also discuss the film this way?  I grant you, the
film has things to consider that the book does not, such as acting and special
effects, but these can likewise be discussed in terms of effectiveness.
Having said all that, I’m certainly not going to deny that TPM is a
beautiful film, well-photographed.

Dave!



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  Re: TPM Rules
 
(...) That's not what I said at all in the original post that I referred you back to. Of course you can evaluate art - stylistically, aesthetically, and in many other ways - but nobody can sit there and say that the artist should have done this or (...) (24 years ago, 1-Jun-00, to lugnet.starwars)

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(...) Lots of reasonable questions - see my other post ('what's wrong with TPM' thread) for the long version of why I see all these questions and criticisms as moot. I really think that considering the movie as a film is erroneous, and it should (...) (24 years ago, 1-Jun-00, to lugnet.starwars)

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