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Re: Ewok Holocaust
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Thu, 25 Jan 2001 17:56:20 GMT
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In lugnet.starwars, Jeromy Irvine writes:
> I've visited this site before, and while it's an interesting
> interpretation, the author makes two major mistakes:
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> 1) Trying to impose known physical limitations on unknown technology and
> movie special effects. We all know that movie props and special effects
> don't always match in scale or obey the physics of the actual universe;
> and Star Wars is more prone to this than most due to its subject nature.
> How do hyperdrives, lightsabers, etc. work? Who cares! Trying to explain
> the technology tends to make it less fun sometimes. To paraphrase:
> "Analyzing fiction is like dissecting a frog: most people don't enjoy it
> and the frog usually dies as a result."
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> (You'll have to read the article to really understand my next point.)
> 2) Even given physical parameters established by the author, why does
> there have to be debris and fallout on the moon? Given the obviously
> enormous power output of the Death Star, isn't it possible that energy
> released by the explosion simply vaporized most or all of the matter of
> the object instantaneously? Why does there have to be debris left over
> from the explosion?
Ah! A subject near and dear to my heart: I'm afraid that I'm going to have to
play the tried-but-true "Lucas Plows Through a Self-Made Plot Conundrum Like a
Bull in a China Shop" card.
Lucas really got himself in it thick on that one. Not sure how to wrap up the
trilogy? No more good ideas? Darn it, let's just copy the Death Star...can't
have the fighters fly down a trench to heroics? Er...tell you what...this time
we'll have them fly right into the monster! Remember that scene at the end of
ROTJ when they look up into the sky at the exploded Death Star? Now, given the
magnitude of the blast when a 500-kilometer-in-diameter object that is packed
with all sorts of volatile materials explodes in extremely close proximity to a
fragile and earth-like inhabited world (moon), I'd say that Han and Leia would
have to share that kiss while the flesh was being seared from their rapidly
combusting bodies.
Sure, it's just sci-fi, and most sci-fi is not believable. Point well taken.
However, sci-fi does not have to be slip-shod and slap-dash - it should strive
to be believable on points relative to the "universe" in question. By all
accounts, the SW galaxy was subject to the same physical processes as ours,
albeit influenced by technological manipulations of matter heretofore
unaccomplished in our solar system.
Lucas certainly has an eye for the visual medium - but a talented screenplay
writer he is not. Fantasy writing does not have to insult the intellect; a
generous dash of believability, perhaps plausability, does much to lend
credibility to the story.
Ok, flame away: I know that things happened in SW that could probably never
happen in reality, but this does not mean that *all* aspects of credibility
should be sacrificed, nay, divorced, from the story.
james
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| (...) I'd challenge you to find much SF which you couldn't find gaping holes in. Star Wars is no worse than movies in general, and perhaps better. Note that the referenced article even points out that there is nothing in the Star Wars literature (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.starwars)
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| (...) Ooh, you got me going there. Lucas had a story, which he shared with Leigh Brackett over several days in late 1977. Brackett turned in a script on February 23, 1977, and succumbed to cancer shortly thereafter. Lucas worked up a second and a (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.starwars)
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| I've visited this site before, and while it's an interesting interpretation, the author makes two major mistakes: 1) Trying to impose known physical limitations on unknown technology and movie special effects. We all know that movie props and (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.starwars)
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