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  Problem with dll putting a program on the RCX.
 
I have determined that the problem I had with uploading a program to the RCX is a bug in either the dll program or the kernel of version brickos-0.2.6.09.newConf2. I setup and compiled version legOS-0.2.5 without any problems, compiled and uploaded (...) (22 years ago, 29-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: LNP problem
 
(...) I don't know anything about Windows, but I started using LNP on Linux with good results lately. It really isn't that hard once you get your first programm running ... :) I wrote a little remote-control/monitor app based on LNP. While for Gnome (...) (22 years ago, 29-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: (no subject)
 
(...) The first error can be dealt with by adding a blank line at the end of the file. The others are harder. What version of gcc are you using? What editor did you use to type it in? For those of us without the book, what is the text of the program? (22 years ago, 29-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Problem Getting dll to Download helloworld.lx to download.
 
Okay here is what I am using: brickos-0.2.6.09.new...nf2.tar.gz rcx-binutils-2.9.5.0...1.i386.rpm rcx-egcs-1.1.2-1.i386.rpm rcx-egcs-c++-1.1.2-1.i386.rpm I am running Mandrake Linux 8.2. I downloaded and installed all of the above files. I (...) (22 years ago, 28-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  (no subject)
 
Hi there, Was just wanting some help getting the simple.c program working that comes in the extreme mindstorms book. The problem is that when I type make simple.lx I get warnings and errors back like this: /usr/local/bin/h8300-hms-gcc -02 (...) (22 years ago, 28-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: LNP problem
 
Hi everyone, I have to say I have found these messages very interesting, and was wanting to use lnp myself but i do not know where to write and make my programs. And I would also like to find out more about how you write the pc code and the rcx code (...) (22 years ago, 28-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: How do i make a program to run on brickos
 
(...) You can use any editor. However, I recommend a good "programmer's editor" like VIM that automatically stylizes, colorizes, and syntax-checks your code. An alternative to VIM is Emacs. VIM vs Emacs is a popular "computer holy war", and I (...) (22 years ago, 28-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Problem solves!
 
(...) make is casesensitive! That means lightseeker.c was not found because the filename was LigtSeeker.c! Reinhard (22 years ago, 27-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: How do i make a program to run on brickos
 
Hi, I have been got bricxCC and have been trying to use it in the standard way with NQC, and I am not really that great at it. So what is it like to use brickOS in it? and is there any documentation that can show me where to start? Or can I just (...) (22 years ago, 27-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: RCXTTY-Variable Problem, calling ./firmdl3 ../boot/brickOS.srec
 
(...) I will try to add a little clarity to the problems that some people have encountered with brickOS under cygwin. If you get make strip errors it is almost certainly because your utilities were built without .exe extensions. This will happen if (...) (22 years ago, 27-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: How do i make a program to run on brickos
 
(...) If you are running brickOS on a Windows machine then you should definitely consider using BricxCC to write your brickOS programs. John Hansen (22 years ago, 27-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  How do i make a program to run on brickos
 
Hi everyone, previous problems behind me now as it all works and i am well chuffed, I now just want to start running programs on it, and was wondering where do you write your programs? can you do it in notepad? or do i need a specific text editor? I (...) (22 years ago, 27-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: legos.srec
 
Hi everyone, I have ran configure and unfortunaly cannot remember what messages appeared, and at the minute i have uninstalled all of cygwin and brickos and i am reinstalling everthing at the mo to try and get things sorted. I was just wondering (...) (22 years ago, 27-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: legos.srec
 
(...) There is absolutely no way your h8300-hitachi-hms-gcc is in the root directory. Did you run configure? What did it say? Probably best to remove your brickos dir, and unpack again from the tarball. Max. (22 years ago, 26-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  legos.srec
 
Hi everyone, the problem may begin before these few lines so i will show more of the lines that were previous to that error message. Here goes: make[2]: Leaving directory '/brickos-0.2.6.0.ne...l/dll-src' make[2]: entering directory (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  LegOS.srec
 
Hi everyone, I do not have legos.srec or brickos.srec, cos of make depend not working. So i used the command Max suggested and now i get the message below. This is the error message i get when i try to use the "make clean all" make[2]: *** (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: I dont seem to have legOS.srec
 
(...) Please keep replies on the mailing list. I'm not the only person who can help. (...) The first line you give is make reacting to an error whilst building memcpy.o, and bailing out. So all I know from that is that "An error occurred". So, I (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: I dont seem to have legOS.srec
 
(...) Did you do what I suggested last time you said make depend wasn't working? Max. (22 years ago, 26-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  I dont seem to have legOS.srec
 
Hi everyone, I am having real difficulty at the moment getting anywhere with brickos. But it seems i do not have the kernel legos.srec or brickos.srec whichever it might be, it's just not there. I think maybe it is because "make depend" command (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: RCXTTY-Variable Problem, calling ./firmdl3 ../boot/brickOS.srec
 
Hello I found the solution to the Main Problem: Quotation from another topic: This Flag has to be changed in the Makefile.common file in the Brickos directory "The best fix for cygwin and newConf2 is to change the line in the ifdef (...) (22 years ago, 25-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  RCXTTY-Variable Problem, calling ./firmdl3 ../boot/brickOS.srec
 
Hello, Dear NewsGroup ---...--- My Problem is: When I tri to download the BrickOS firmware to the Brick using ./firmdl3 ../boot/brickOS.srec after setting "RCXTTY=USB" with "export ...". (I have the USB-Tower) I get the following error: "USB: No (...) (22 years ago, 25-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Newbie problems
 
(...) Well, the compilation process would give up everytime, despite just trying to install just the suggested packages. (Also, given the unintuitive Cygwin install program, I decided it was easier to say everything - I have access to a nice fat (...) (22 years ago, 23-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: newbie trouble with make depend
 
(...) Thats broken at the moment, but the workaround is to simply not rebuild the dependencies. i.e., just do "make clean all", and don't do "make depend". Max. (22 years ago, 22-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  newbie trouble with make depend
 
hi everyone, I have been trying to get everything configured for brickos, and keep getting stuck at make depend command, as shown below: makedepend: not found make[2]: *** [.depend] Error 127 make[2]: Leaving directory (...) (22 years ago, 22-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Newbie problems
 
[Ian: I realized I'd forgotten a sentence just after pressing send. So this is not quite a duplicate of my previous message.] (...) It may be worthwhile trying the latest brickos testing release, 0.2.6.09, IIRC. (...) Everything under Cygwin is a (...) (22 years ago, 22-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  I cannot send more than 6 bytes with lnpd
 
I'm trying to send some data from the RCX to my computer, using lnpd, but I have the following problem: it seems that I cannot send more than 6/7 bytes, because after this limit I have a lot of errors from lpnd (see the log below). The tower and the (...) (22 years ago, 21-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Newbie problems
 
Hi everyone, I've been struggling to get legos 0.2.6 working for a few days now, and I'm beginning to make a little progress. Using the insturctions at this site: (URL) finally got the thing installed under XP (Dosn't seem to want to go under win98 (...) (22 years ago, 21-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Sensor Sampling; Progress?
 
The Lego firmware cuts power for about 200uS, with a period of 3mS. So most sensors have to have enough capacitor based power storage for the full 200uS and be able to run on about 93% duty cycle. (The rotation sensor is one of the devices on the (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Sensor Sampling; Progress?
 
(...) Yes. (...) individually (...) That's right. (...) I agree. With the current firmware, power gets cut off to all 3 sensors for ~85us (sometimes longer). With the scheme I mentioned, power would be cut to only one sensor for ~25us. The sample (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Sensor Sampling; Progress?
 
(...) What OS are you using? How far have you got? Max. (22 years ago, 19-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Sensor Sampling; Progress?
 
I have been following this thread with great interest for two reasons. One day, someone will be persuaded to provide me with direct help and assistance in getting BrickOS running on my laptop - perhaps at BW or BF. I have built quite a few prototype (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Sensor Sampling; Progress?
 
Joe, Great job on taking the bull by the horns! The following are my suggestions on a system configuration. Please note that the term "divider" is being used here to indicate the function should only be performed every Nth interrupt. OCRA interrupt (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Sensor Sampling; Progress?
 
So far, I have reconfigured a copy of BrickOS in the following way: 1) Adjusted the clock_handler to improve the accuracy of the sys_time variable. Now running at very close (if not right on) 1 msec per tick. 2) Allowed the FRC (Free-Running (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: DISTRIBUTED/PARALLEL CLUSTER for legOS through n*RCX
 
Nick, What you propose it's another way, and of course, should work, but we might have to create another software layer over the current operating system of the RCX (of course, legOS), and we would loose 1 sensor per RCX. What I was trying to (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: DISTRIBUTED/PARALLEL CLUSTER for legOS through n*RCX
 
(...) An interesting idea. Presumably a light sensor alone would suffice, as it could be switched between active/passive mode to turn the LED on/off. You couldn't get high bandwidth, but there wouldn't be interference. Also, this would take multiple (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: brickOS with BricxCC
 
(...) Well, I guess I am one of the two :) Its nice to know I am on the cutting edge of things. Actually I am probably one of the few BrickOS users that is too dumb or impatient to deal with cygwin or unix. (...) Seems fine to me. I think all we (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  MIDI conversion
 
I have added a feature to BricxCC to convert MIDI files to NQC, MindScript, LASM, brickOS C, and brickOS Pascal code. It seems to work quite well with the first three languages (i.e., the sound generated by the RCX closely resembles the MIDI file (...) (22 years ago, 16-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos, lugnet.robotics.rcx.nqc)
 
  Re: Interesting BrickOS Timing Results
 
(...) I forgot to mention... This is *almost* the same as moving some of the subsystem code into a seperate high priority task. For example, LCD refresh code is executed in the 1ms timer ISR. It really doesn't need to be in the ISR. It can do it's (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Interesting BrickOS Timing Results
 
(...) 250msec? Not blocked entirely, but delayed. That's what I meant by "stutter". I've measured the general interrupt handler to take anywhere from 70-150us. So, the higher the sample rate the more significant the disruption. Anything faster than (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  RE: Interesting BrickOS Timing Results
 
(...) I have been following this thread in my peripheral vision for a while now. All of the talk is very interesting and appears to be leading to a general question about how and why the drivers are the way they are.... As a point of interest, some (...) (22 years ago, 15-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos, lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth)


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