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Subject: 
RE: Spybotics - A great disappointment
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lugnet.robotics
Date: 
Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:08:29 GMT
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Marco Correia <marco@soporcel.pt#Spamless#>
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Hi :)

> -----Original Message-----> Of Dave Baum
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 4:50 AM
> Spybotics doesn't really have a tower, just a cable with a serial
> connector on one end and led/phototransistor on the other
> (which snaps
> into the back of the spybotics brick).  It transmits using visible

So, a bit like MicroScout, it's programmed through the inbuilt LightSensor,
right ?

Can you see if it uses a VLL protocol like CodePilot/MicroScout ?
...that way, any Scout/RCX/CyberMaster could download VLL snipets to it.

One important thing, can the RUN/EXECUTE command be sent through the cable
(unlike CodePilot/MicroScout) or the only way is by pressing a button on the
unit, every time we want to run a program ?

If yes (and assuming it's using a VLL protocol or any other that we can
decode), the Spybotics unit could be a smarter slave to the RCX than the
MANAS unit.

> light, not IR (and I don't think it has any 38kHz modulation).  First
> priority for NQC is to program using this link (which means you will
> need a serial port).

hmmm... doesn't the RIS 2.0 USB IR-Tower has a LED for VLL output ?
Maybe it could be used in that mode.

> The Spybotics bricks also have some infrared capability, but I'm not
> sure about programming over it.  If it is possible, then I'll
> add it to
> NQC later on, but for now I just want to get a preliminary version
> released.

What is the purpose of the thing that looks like a IR-rc (I think someone
also called it a Beacon) ?
It looks like it has 4 or 5 buttons and a lever or something ?
Could anyone with a Spybotics set shed some light on that object ? :)

And also, is there a way to control mode than one unit at the same time ?
i.e. Can I control the 4 units independently, like the MANAS, where each has
an ID out of possible three (it's like 3 IR channels).

> If your computer only has USB, you could buy a USB/serial adapter.  I
> think you can find them for around $30.

...or maybe use the usb tower in vll mode.
(I don't own a RIS 2.0 nor a Spybotics *yet* so I can't answer this VLL
question myself.)

Thxs,

mc.



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  Re: Spybotics - A great disappointment
 
(...) It is programmed using visible light, but the commands are very different from CodePilot/MicroScout. The protocol itself is just 4800bps NRZ turned into light. The packets have a simple format (preable, data bytes, checksum). The commands in (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jul-02, to lugnet.robotics)

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  Re: Spybotics - A great disappointment
 
(...) Spybotics doesn't really have a tower, just a cable with a serial connector on one end and led/phototransistor on the other (which snaps into the back of the spybotics brick). It transmits using visible light, not IR (and I don't think it has (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jul-02, to lugnet.robotics)

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