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Re: Publishing DAT files (was Re: B-Wing DAT file)
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lugnet.publish
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Tue, 13 Oct 1998 06:38:17 GMT
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Waaaay cool, Todd.
Of course, now I can think of a zillion ways ldlite could
work better, like putting a "Save As" option on the menu,
and having the zoom factor and viewing direction be set
from a menu, and Saving all the comment fields to a scrolling
text window so you could read all the author's notes.
-gyug
Todd Lehman wrote:
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> legoverse@geocities.com (Terry K) writes:
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> > > > To put this thread back on charter, what is the best way to
> > > > publish Ldraw .dat files? On my system, I have associated
> > > > .dat files with the program ldlite and with the mime type of
> > > > "application/x-ldraw". If someone posted a .dat file with
> > > > that mime type, I *think* that when I read the article then
> > > > ldlite would pop up semi-automatically, which would be
> > > > really cool. For those of you with perhaps more experience
> > > > doing the MIME thing with enclosures and all that, does this
> > > > sound like a good idea?
> > >
> > > Neat idea! -- (Except all MIME posts are rejected by this newsserver...)
> > >
> > > Alternatively, would it be useful if there were a special area on the www
> > > part of the server for uploading .dat files, and having it index them and
> > > serve them back as "application/x-ldraw"?
> >
> > That sounds like an interesting idea, Todd. Give it a shot. I would
> > like to try it.
>
> OK, here's what I came up with (feature list):
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> * Storage on the lugnet.com server of LDraw .DAT files of models submitted,
> and the models are identified by their author.
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> * Viewable by anyone with a web browser which can launch LDLITE (as Gyug
> explains on his webpage). Server returns "application/x-ldraw" as
> content type.
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> * For posterity, arbitrary comments by the author can be associated
> tightly with the .DAT files submitted.
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> * New versions of models can be submitted by authors at any time.
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> * Author's comments/descriptions/questions can be addressed by other
> people. That is, there is support for discussions (or idolation :)
> revolving around a particular model.
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> * No MIMEing is required, and no fancy software is needed to submit the
> .DAT files.
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> * Rudimentary indexing and searching is provided.
>
> OK, now how does it work?
>
> Well...
>
> All you do is -- just post a .DAT file -- and dat's it! (Hee hee.)
>
> (And you can even put a few paragraphs of text above your .DAT file in the
> same post -- as long as the lines don't begin with numbers.)
>
> Here's the magic part -- the web interface detects that the body of the
> article contains LDraw content, and gives you the option to launch LDLITE
> with contents of the article (after on-the-fly conversion to a .DAT file).
> Then you just click on that link and up pops the file.
>
> Er, hmm, it's probably easier just to show it action than to try to explain.
> Here are two .DAT files which have been posted to this server:
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> http://www.lugnet.com/news/display.cgi?lugnet.publish:6
> http://www.lugnet.com/news/display.cgi?lugnet.cad:20
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> There ya have it. :)
>
> I thought this would be a nice hybrid approach because:
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> * It doesn't require any futzing around with MIME stuff anywhere on the
> server (all postings are still all-ASCII)
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> * .DAT files can be posted from tin, trn, slrn, Pine, etc. -- any
> newsreader even if it doesn't support MIME posting.
>
> * You get to include extra info in with your .DAT file posting --
> for instance, just like you did in article #6 of lugnet.publish
> (linked above).
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> * It's very tightly integrated with news, which is good for discussions.
>
> * It only took about 1 hour of coding (mostly refining the regex which
> recognizes LDraw .DAT content in article bodies).
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> * Doesn't require any new "terms of use" for the site since it falls
> under the whole news thing.
>
> Disadvantages of this approach:
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> - You have to go to the web interface to see the visuals. That is, since
> it doesn't make use of MIME, your browser can't display the .DAT files
> inline.
>
> Well, give it shot...see what you think...
>
> --Todd
>
> p.s. Here's the Perl5 regex I used to detect LDraw content in article
> bodies:
>
> if ($art->Body() =~ m/^\s*[1-5](?:\s+[0-9]+)(?:\s+\-?[0-9]*\.?[0-9]*){6,12}(?:\s+\S+\.[Dd][Aa][Tt])?\s*$/m)
>
> It a trade-off between accuracy and simplicity...it would be smarter if
> it knew which lines had 6, 9, and 12 extra parameters, respectively, or
> maybe it could group the numbers like (?:(?:...){3}){2,4} instead of
> what it does...but I think it's probably accurate enough as-is. But
> comments would still be appreciated... [Yeah, it should really be a /x
> regex.]
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| (...) Right now it's filtering out all lines which don't have a digit as their first non-whitespace character -- so the only author's notes that make it through are the ones beginning with 0. I was tempted to see if LDLITE would filter this out, and (...) (28 years ago, 13-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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| (...) OK, here's what I came up with (feature list): * Storage on the lugnet.com server of LDraw .DAT files of models submitted, and the models are identified by their author. * Viewable by anyone with a web browser which can launch LDLITE (as Gyug (...) (28 years ago, 12-Oct-98, to lugnet.publish)
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