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Re: French Squadron pics
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Date: 
Mon, 8 Apr 2002 23:22:13 GMT
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One! Doesn't a sloop only have one?
Oh dear. (I thought if it was fore-and-aft (sloop) rigged one mast qualified
it as a sloop, two as either a ketch or a yawl - ketch if mizzen in front of
rudder post, otherwise yawl), not sure about three. But these may be modern
definitions that I picked up when I learned to sail. But my brig is ship >rigged (isn't it?)... I have seen pics of (I think)brig-sloops though, ship >rigged on the main mast, fore-and-aft sails on the mizzen.

Ahh, I think we've hit upon the sloop crisis. I've come to associate 'sloop'
with 'corvette' -- a slightly-smaller-than-a-frigate vessel, Brig- or
Ship-rigged (oh, back then my understanding is that anything less than 3
masts wasn't considered 'ship' rigged), though they'd label many sub-classes
as 'sloops' too.

Just for the heck of it, it seems.

I just found references of single-mast West Indies sloops, Dutch and even
17th Century England versions. The balance of things I've read refering to
the British fleet labeled single-mast fore-and-aft rigged vessels as
cutters, at least around these times, and they were pretty popular for
harrasing the coast of France during the war.

The French equivalent seems to be the Chase-maree (I doubt that's spelled
correctly) -- a one or two masted lugger with a few light guns, mainly used
to guard against cutter or gun-brig raids on coastal convoys, especial when
Napoleon was getting preped for invasion.

Well, either way, it's a ship with guns, and with one mast it's probably a
pretty handy sailor!

I really ought to build something for the British...

: )

Kenneth Tam



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(...) Ahhh.... from a simple chart I saw at a small maritime museum last week (no reference on it, and no possibility of a copy, unfortunately), a sloop is one masted fore-and-aft rigged with two sails, a cutter is one masted fore-and-aft rigged (...) (23 years ago, 23-Apr-02, to lugnet.pirates)

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  Re: French Squadron pics
 
(...) One! Doesn't a sloop only have one? (...) Oh dear. (I thought if it was fore-and-aft (sloop) rigged one mast qualified it as a sloop, two as either a ketch or a yawl - ketch if mizzen in front of rudder post, otherwise yawl), not sure about (...) (23 years ago, 8-Apr-02, to lugnet.pirates)

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