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(...) as have I. and I HAVE seen it fail. why do you think I have to install error checking to make sure I GOT a message. (...) agreed (...) i'm saying use up one of your "spare" rcx or even something as lowly as a scout, and send it your IR, and it (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) 'Cause you're not doing it right? I've never used any kind of protocol or error checking and I've used this in all of my multi RCX robots (and no comments about the last one...messaging was not the problem) (...) True, but, I read that the guy (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Put the RCXs in "standard" locations and cover them with a box. (...) But what if we only scan for new pieces? Our bot should be smart enough to know what the board looked like on the last move, so it should be trivial to find the ONE piece (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) That's true enough, but, my question still stands...how long per move, and does anyone with any experience know what the average number of moves per game is. Bruce (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I can't believe it, but I asked my wife where the Connect4 game is, and she donated the damned thing to Goodwill just last week!!!! I've played it a lot with the kids, and the standard board is (I think) 6x7 = 42 squares. From experience, we (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Not true. This assumes that the opponent (or even YOUR last move) was successful. What if the gantry gets misaligned and a piece drops to the floor? You should check for this. Unless of course a rule is created to make you automatically lose (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) AC power cords. :-) Derek (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Geez that reminds me. Kids being kids, they tended to fiddle with the slider at the bottom of the game board that emptied the playing field. It got so bad that we added a rule that if you accidentally moved the slider and emptied the game (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Vison Command! If your going to use IR why not just send the column number as well? 'Dear opposing RCX. I dropped my chip down column number X, your turn.' Steve (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) If your going to do that, then why bother having the board at all. We could just point to RCXs at each other. Derek (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) [butting in] By my calculations there are 261,827 distinct states the board can be at by the 8th move (184,868 board combos for turn 8 itself). I don't have numbers for further states, cuz, well, it was taking too long for my program to (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Speaking of fitting stuff into 20 RCXs, is there a limit in this game for how many RCXs can be used? If not, doesn't that kill the idea that we can put the RCXs fact to face, to communicate with the opponent? Dang. I liked that idea better (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I don't believe so! (...) You bring up a good point we haven't touched on yet. If we do opt for an IR "your turn" signal (which, from what I've been reading, is what we're steering away from now), we'll have to assign numbers to people to use (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) To give some reference for plausibility, a look-ahead will reveal (I think): Look-ahead | Max Possibilities ---...---+---...--- 1 | 7 2 | 49 3 | 238 4 | 1,120 5 | 4,263 6 | 16,422 7 | 54,859 8 | 184,868 9 | 821,283 So, you're entirely right. (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Quoting David Eaton <deaton@intdata.com>: (...) Wouldn't you only have to look ahead one step at a time? The opponent only has 7 choices on any given turn. It's pretty much impossible to say like playing a computer in chess, figure out how the game (...) (21 years ago, 16-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) cant.... stop..... must.... not..... hit reply.... button...... (...) wow bruce, keep it up. I'll have enough sig files to last for years. but seriously, you know as well as I do that very few of us have the ability to build and code this. I (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) no THAT'S a neat idea for the mock game? cause really we can all build a project X robot. (except for those few people who have NOT built a project X robot) so why bother with the hardware. we could have a trial game of software or even some (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) You "Son-of-a-Gun" or something like that! (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Wow, and afterwards we can go to a Star Trek convention and debate the merits of the Galaxy versus Nebula class starships, then play RPGs where I'm a dragon and you're a really scantily dressed elf, and finally we can head over the Linux (...) (21 years ago, 17-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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