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(...) This works well for the human interface. What about asking that the RCX sends a standard message that is available on the remote control? That takes away one mechanical issue and leaves all sensors and motor ports avaailable. (...) Oh, I was (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Ralph Hempel wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) That was the first thing I thought of--if you design your 'bot on a gantry system, your hopper/dropper would have a home position to the "right" facing the gameboard. In this (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Excellent ideas guys. This is gonna be slick! (...) :) I just had another thought - when we did Project X, we had scoring that included time, as well as accuracy being factors in determining who won. Does anyone think that adding the time (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) See the post about IR. Mechanical works well so kids can play the robots. That could very well be a qualifying-have someone play a full game with the unit without failure. (...) Sounds right to me--it's not a big deal to buy a game board. God (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) :) On one plane it's easy, but the other is a little bit more tricky, I supose (since the chips are thin). (...) Huh? Why does the robot have to grab onto the board? If you want to do that, just say, you can grab onto the left side of the (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I think we decided there's a minimum move time-apparently the more time you have, the more you can calculate out which move to make. (...) There was a request at the table to do a more software oriented game for a change. That's not say (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) You can't grab the board. The base the board is attached to has some techinc beams along the bottom that you can attach your bot/gantry to for indexing purposes using Technic pins or axles... That way, you can guarantee no obstructions due to (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) But as Iain says, the tolerance on the width axis is much higher. Clamping the board allows you to control the tolerance. The further away you are from the base (ie, the top, where accuracy counts) the more it'll sway/bend etc. We should have (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) This is my problem with this game as discussed so far. There is a minimum mechanical requirement to participate, but no advantage to going beyond this. If your robot can drop the chips into the slots, and read the board you're set. It's all (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Nice explanation Derek! It would be really good if the action of toggling the timer could be used to signal the other bot to begin his move. They don;t need to be the same electrical point, but if we're closing a switch for the control lab, (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Quoting Derek Raycraft <djr@rogers.com>: (...) I agree that a timer increases incentive to build better robots - and it would also speed up the game. I may not be happy with the idea, but I agree. :) Jennifer ps: sorry guys, I know this is your (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Well, technically I think this is a mechanically more difficult game than Project X (which I did with 1 RCX). the XY gantry system for Project X comes into play for the XY gantry for Project 4, but vertical movement of a gantry system is (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) It should be possible to do this with just an RCX. Each robot has 1 input & 1 output. The referee RCX just watches for when one is done, and it signals the other to start, at the same time, keeping time for each. And without the ref, the (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Well if we make the interface modular enough, we could have a human module and a robot module that plugs into the timer block. The human module could provide a button a person could press to say they have finished their turn. If two people (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Two human modules. Cute :) That's what I figured- a human module is a giant "slapper" wired to a touch switch. I prefer not to use a ControlLab for the arbiter. I agree with Steve-an RCX, or better yet, a Scout. (Two inputs, two outputs, and (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I choose the control lab as the ref because it's not a legal part to use in the contest, which means no-one looses the use of an RCX in for this game. (Well it's legal, but the computer at the other end isn't) You also have an nice large (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Steve, I wish you would stop this nonsense. Can't you understand that these RTLers bought a bunch of old Control Lab stuff (without asking if I wanted one :-) and now they are struggling to find ways to use up more of their spare time writing (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Except running more than one game in parallel is awkward.... Oh, I forgot, you guys bought a lot of them without asking me if I wanted one :-) Ralph (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I agree 100% I really think we should implement something other than win/lose scoring here. There should be a bonus for speed. I get the feeling that eventually people will get their programs working so well that they are nearly unbeatable. (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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