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Re: [rtlToronto] rtlToronto21 page update
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Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:27:40 GMT
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Chris Magno wrote:
> Derek Raycraft wrote:
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> > Chris Magno wrote:
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> > > but to compare this to a REAL game of tug of war......
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> > >
> > > your saying that we either HAVE to pull the bot off the table, OR,
> > > keep the marker closer to your side for the full 3 minutes?
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> > No it only has to be on your side at the end of 3 minutes.
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> While you have valid ideas, Im not sure what your "motive" is behind
> this rule addition. I dont see any advantage to forcing us to watch the
> game for the full 3 min, if one robot is clearly winning.
Wait a minute, I'm not the one adding a rule after the rule page as been
up for months. What's your motive. :-)
> What other strategys exist that would offer an advantage to a robot to
> either stay tied, or "losing" for 2 min 15 seconds then at the last
> moments, show off a strategy or prowess that would make it win.
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> in other words why wait till the end of the 3 min?
I'm also not saying the match has to go 3 minutes. As you say below, a
gentleman's agreement to end the match early is alway a valid way to end
a match.
But if I know my robot has something left in him then I wouldn't end the
match.
I don't think this new rule will significant reduce match times.
Plus it messes with the whole idea of pulling the other robot into the
pit. That's really the way to end a tug of war match. It's not about
pulling some flag over some arbitrary line, it's about pulling people
into a pit.
> > > What about 2 equal bots? are we supposed to just sit and watch the
> > > stalemate for 3 minuites?
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> > If they are equal as you say, you'll be watching them for 3 minutes
> > regardless of this rule.
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> true, I agree, and in other games, many of the entrants will mutually
> agree to end the game early out of boredom from watching the stalemate.
Or knowledge that their bot has no more tricks up it sleeve.
> I see what your saying, but then this just forces people to build an
> edge detection into the robot.
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> so that while your robot sits there playing out the rope, other robots
> will contine to drive backards off the edge.
This is not the only reason to play out rope. And I don't think it's
required to build edge detection to defeat this strategy.
> > > maybe we need consensus from the rest of the players?
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> I would like others to PLEASE weigh in on this. I dont want to make
> this decision based on info from just derek or myself.
Agreed!
> if we add the rule i proposed:
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> (your robot wins if...)
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> * Within the 3 minuite time limit, the marker flag has been pulled
> into/past your 18" start line.
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> then this defeates the strategy of playing out 8' of rope and having
> your opponent driving itself backwards off the edge.
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> yay or nay,
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> these are YOUR games, please help us decide
Derek
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| In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Derek Raycraft wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) Well, I'm not completely adamant about the 'flag crosing the 18 inch line for a win', but if a 'bot gets the flag to the 18 inch mark, the chances are the other 'bot is in (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-06, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| (...) While you have valid ideas, Im not sure what your "motive" is behind this rule addition. I dont see any advantage to forcing us to watch the game for the full 3 min, if one robot is clearly winning. What other strategys exist that would offer (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-06, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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