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| | | Upgrading my stock Apple G3/233 with a Radeon 7000 gave BrickDraw3D an 85% speed improvement. In pure OpenGL mode the improvement is 60% over the existing OpenGL advantage. The 2002 ATI Retail Card Update worked on G3/233 with 9.1 but BrickDraw3D (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.cad.dev.mac)
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| | | | | Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac —Andrew Allan
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| | | | | At present, I am writing my own OpenGL renderer for LdGLite (Mac). In order to spped things up I am defining the parts within OpenGL and then calling then by their definitions. Theoretically this places the entire model within the Graphics Card (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac —Don Heyse
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| | | | | | (...) Cool! If you can clearly show where you make the changes, I might be able to port this back into the other versions. I've never been all that happy with the rendering speed myself. You can see in the code where I tinkered a bit with display (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac —Don Heyse
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| | | | (...) You call that a baseline? Can't you do something for the old PowerMac 6100 that I got out of my sister in-law's closet? All I can coax out of it is some sort of boing sound, but I'm sure you could work around that. ;) I'd tell you about my on (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac —Dan Boger
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| | | | | (...) hey, it's not a 386, but our home firewall is a 486 with 7M or RAM :) and our mailserver/fileserver/wireless firewall is a P90... I was thinking of putting a streaming mp3 server on it too... *grin* (22 years ago, 11-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac —John D. Forinash
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| | | | | | (...) Most likely, that 486 actually has 8 1MB SIMMs under the hood, and it claims it has 7168k or so due to caching ("shadowing") the video BIOS ROM, the system BIOS ROM... ...Being a firewall, you can probably at least get away with turning off (...) (22 years ago, 15-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac —Dan Boger
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| | | | | | (...) could be - but I think we ended up putting some not-so-good memory in it... I think it reports 8016K or something like that... (...) heh, nope - it doesn't even log to itself, nor does it run _any_ services (other than mgetty on the serial :). (...) (22 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) What's a halted firewall? Just one that's not working? or something neater? Thanks to all who answered my questions about making old iron into firewalls some time back... I went as far as downloading the "firewall on a floppy" image that (...) (22 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac —Dan Boger
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| | | | | | | | (...) close... a firewall, that you told to shut down - so it's not running any processes at all, no programs are running on it... but it still filters and forwards packets. How can you hack a firewall if you can't launch any process on it? :) (22 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) Conversely? How can it be filtering and forwarding if there are no processes running? And why wouldn't it shutdown all the way at some point? (22 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac —John D. Forinash
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| | | | | | | | (...) It's something of a cheat; the world doesn't tend to consider the kernel to be a process in and of itself, and with stuff like ipchains you can effectively put all the firewall rules and functionality in the kernel. So you still have a kernel (...) (22 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac —Ross Crawford
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| | | | | | | | (...) Every Linux firewall I've seen is done differently. I have mine all installed on a write-protected floppy (no HD), I re-compiled syslog to use a different config file, hidden away as inconspicuously as possible, and it logs to my main server. (...) (22 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac —John D. Forinash
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| | | | | | (...) In the PC world, motherboards that'll boot without a video card installed are way rare. (this one was an AMI Bios, so it gave the eight-beep "I can't find video!" post code...) -JDF (22 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac —Dan Boger
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| | | | | | (...) not that bad - most bioses I saw give an option saying "ignore errors at boot" - it'll still beep, but will move on... then again, I think there actually is some sort of video card installed in the box, though I've no idea, really... :) (22 years ago, 16-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac —John D. Forinash
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| | | | | | (...) That'll get you around stuff like "Keyboard not detected" (or the IBM version, which was "No keyboard present, press <F1> to continue"), or "I have no idea what floppy drive you're talking about", but that BIOS setting won't get you past the (...) (22 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac —William R. Ward
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| | | | | | (...) So put a Hercules MDA video card in it! :-) (That's the old monochrome standard, from the days when color monitors were rare on PC's.) I've got a storage locker full of old computer crap that I'd love to get rid of, but I can't quite bring (...) (22 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac —John D. Forinash
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| | | | | | | (...) Which one's the standard? :) The MDA was the original PC display adapter (stood for, amazingly enough, Monochrome Display Adapter) and didn't do graphics at all. Two color, text only, 80x25. Hercules, on the other hand, was a different spec (...) (22 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac —William R. Ward
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| | | | | | | | (...) Since Hercules is a superset of MDA, I thought "Hercules MDA" was the full name. It is, after all, a monochrome display adapter! (...) I've got a CGA card that's truly frightening - it's an 8-bit ISA card that is full of 74xx chips. It takes (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | Graphics cards on the PC (was some pansy mac stuff —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | (...) My old EGA card (by a clone brand) had a Hercules emulation mode and I had some games that used it! (...) Yes. 4 colors at a time, but you could choose which 4 from two possible palettes. Red/Green/Blue/Black or Cyan/Magenta/Yellow/Black, if I (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac —John D. Forinash
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Nope, they were two different things. MDA really didn't last long once CGA and Hercules existed. (...) Depends on the mode, actually. You could only do graphics in four colors, or text in eight, but the card knew how to display 16 total. You (...) (22 years ago, 19-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac —William R. Ward
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) I see. I was talking about text mode, you were talking about graphics mode. --Bill. (22 years ago, 20-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac —Erik Olson
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| | | | | | | | (...) It frightens me that you all have kept my subject line! well, it does say "low-end". (22 years ago, 23-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | (...) Or, better, get a PC Weasel (URL), which emulates a video card (VGA for the PCI version, MDA for the ISA) and a keyboard during boot and sends the data <-> its serial port -- allowing you to access the BIOS config program. And then when it (...) (22 years ago, 22-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Ancient and obscure hardware geekery (Was: Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac) —John D. Forinash
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| | | | | | (...) Yeah, but the _cheap one_ is $250! I have a Lego habit to support! Seriously, though, one more reason why it wasn't a bad idea to replace the old 486 firewall with a hundred bucks worth of Linksys filtering router. :) On the other hand, I (...) (22 years ago, 23-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Ancient and obscure hardware geekery (Was: Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac) —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | (...) It's definitely a good thing to get one's employer to buy. (22 years ago, 23-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | Re: review: Radeon 7000 for BrickDraw3D, low-end Mac —Andrew Allan
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| | | | Baseline. (...) They may be oldbut they work! As to 6100, while given enough RAM it should run MacOS 8.6 and higher, I'm afraid your are of of luck with OpenGL programs, as GLUT only operates with ATI graphics cards and to my knowledge ATI have (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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