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In lugnet.space, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.space, Kyle Keppler writes:
> >
> > Hey cool! I like the cockpit/bridge. Looks like a design that could fit on
> > almost any ship. One gripe tho, if it's a destroyer, where's the big guns?
> > :-P Looks more like a cruiser or something to me...
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> I thought wet navy cruisers were bigger than destroyers and hence had bigger
> guns. Perhaps you're thinking of a corvette? Those are smaller than
> destroyers IIRC.
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> (patrol boat, corvette, destroyer, frigate, cruiser, battleship, dreadnought ??)
>
> I may have frigate in the wrong spot. Where's LFB when you need him?
So my ears were burning, pain, pain, terrible pain, and...oh,
wait. Nobody cares about flaming earwax. But someone said "wet
navy," so here I am.
The organization of naval classes depends to a certain extent
on precisely what era you're talking about. Naturally, if you're
basing your classes on the ossified WWI/WWII hierarchy, it's usually
like this (* indicates poorly defined categories that sort of slide
into one another):
Patrol boat
Torpedo/missile boat
corvette*
frigate*
destroyer escort*
destroyer
protected cruiser/auxiliary cruiser
light and heavy cruisers
(battlecruiser)--(a schizophrenic category)
battleship ("dreadnought" is a subcategory of this, referring to
any ship designed and executed 'after' HMS Dreadnought[1].)
Carriers are interspersed among the middle and upper reaches, if
we're talking about the range of WWII carriers, from converted
merchants (in the auxiliary cruiser range) through cruiser/BB size
up to the modern supercarrier, which is larger than any battleship
ever was (or, really, could have been, given the way carriers
distribute their mass).
The modern navy has supplanted the DE with the frigate; the A/CA
or protected cruiser has also gone the way of the dodo. One
could argue that the battleship and battlecruiser are gone, but
I keep thinking of the ex-Kirovs as battlecruisers--and US Aegis
missile cruisers are almost the size of battleships of a long-gone
day (although not nearly of their displacement).
By the way, has anyone else stumbled across the US Navy's DD 21
(21st Century Destroyer) programme website? They're actually
BUILDING one of these hideous, but probably quite effective, things:
http://dd21.crane.navy.mil/
I weep for naval aesthetics. A moment of silence, please...
...okay, moment's over. THAT THING'S REALLY FREAKIN' UGLY!
best
LFB
[1] Notwithstanding that the United States and Japan had designed
their first "dreadnoughts" *before* HMS Dreadnought was drawn up;
the US examples became _South Carolina_ and _Michigan_. The
logistics of HG manufacture forced the Japanese units to be
completed as large "pre-dreadnoughts".
XFUT-> .o-t.geek
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