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		Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
(...) I don't really have to: it's you that needs to prove that virtually every single country on the planet is a failure. _ :-O (Edvard Munch) - I said that every country practices socialism to some degree or another. You are stating that socialism (...) (22 years ago, 13-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes: <snip> in any case you are ONCE AGAIN missing the point. If the State (...) While I agree with you in your point about keeping religion out of state run affairs... I have the freedom to believe what I (...) (22 years ago, 12-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: TJ acknowledged a Creator in DoI (was: Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
John: You are looking at past history and past rhetoric with blinders on. Part of The Enlightenment project was to break with the "divine right of kings." That's why there is language of that type floating around. I am not saying that there weren't (...) (22 years ago, 11-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
(...) I suppose that depends on what level of socialism you are refering to. Virtually every nation on the planet practices some form of socialism, so I'd have to say that your claim that socialism working is counterfactual is...well, (...) (22 years ago, 12-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
(...) My point is that it is okay to protect all matters of freedom of religious expression up and until people fly planes into buildings... k, that was a little far--my personal philosophy has always been that anyone can believe what they want (...) (22 years ago, 10-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Durned Telemarketers!
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tim Courtney writes: <snip> (...) Agreed on all points, but I'll take whatever I can get to begin with. I can only hope that political and non-profit phone solicitations will be brought under the same restrictions at a (...) (22 years ago, 4-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Wanted
Best to ignore them, or else they see the smallest portion of attention and then break into epics of bad teenage angst poetry. Santosh (...) (23 years ago, 11-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Durned Telemarketers!
(...) I believe our governor (Illinois) recently vetoed such a bill because it 'wasn't strong enough' and allowed too many exemptions. I think these state-run do not call lists (with penalties) are a good thing (and are long overdue). BUT, I hope (...) (22 years ago, 28-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

political
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		Re: Durned Telemarketers!
(...) My state (Colorado) just passed a "no call list" (URL) where your telephone number is entered into a database. Telemarketers are required to buy updates (I think quarterly) of the database and are fined for each number that is called on the (...) (22 years ago, 27-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The skinny on Jenin, the European Press
(...) Well the West Bank is the world's worst place to be a journalist: (URL) A (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

worlds
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		Re: American intelligentsia and the American electorate (WAS Re: slight)
(...) This is not a snipe(?). Am I not supporting his argument? I can't ever remember agreeing not to "participate in the same threads" as Larry. Further, I am pretty sure he has posted in the same threads as me – he is welcome to. (...) Are John's (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: First entry in "predict the responses!"
(...) John--which Arab governments are based on religion? In fact the most secular government in the region is Saddam Hussein's Iraq-- which is why he was our proxy against the Islamic theocratic Republic of Iran. Now, that is a religious (...) (22 years ago, 22-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Peruvian Indians [Re: Is the Palestinian Cause Dead? The Latest Terror Attacks]
(...) John, "They" would say that their attacks are in response to Israeli oppression and murder. Indeed, there is little doubt that the current Intifada started with Sharon’s deliberately provocative trip to Haram al-Sharif. Further, there is (...) (22 years ago, 9-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Peruvian Indians [Re: Is the Palestinian Cause Dead? The Latest Terror Attacks]
(...) I am not understanding your comments here, John. Here is a guy who despite what must be tremendous personal loss and grief is STILL seeking peace. Rather than look for fault on the other side, he is introspecting and finding flaws with the (...) (22 years ago, 8-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

political
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		Re: Is the Palestinian Cause Dead? The Latest Terror Attacks
[snip] (...) it, (...) The reason no one (i.e. current political leaders everywhere) is doing anything is really quite simple. To do so would require them to admit that what they have been doing (or not doing) up till now was wrong. I do not know (...) (22 years ago, 5-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		American intelligentsia and the American electorate (WAS Re: slight)
(...) I admit it, I was not impressed with the implied link between rationality, "success", religion and creationism. However, over the weekend I read an item by Richard Dawkins from "Free Inquiry" (see: www.secularhumanism.org). This is the part (...) (22 years ago, 6-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Evolution vs Creationism
(...) Well, you're making several different points here, so let's take them one by one; First off, John R's not saying Creationism isn't "valid;" he's saying that it's not a "valid scientific theory," and he's 100% correct. Creationism is not (...) (22 years ago, 11-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) And yet, my comment to Maggie still stands. :-) (...) To switch devil advocate sides: the piece of paper is the will of the people. We can change it if we don't like it (political inertia may make it difficult, but if we perceive it to be that (...) (22 years ago, 10-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) And yet, he's the prez... Don't ever say that the US upholds democracy above all else--a piece of paper trumped the will of the people. And, from my vague recollections of poli-sci 101, the US isn't even a democracy, in its purest form--not (...) (22 years ago, 10-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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