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		Re: Debate
(...) You said something to that effect a couple of days ago. It's funny -- I consider myself a complete amature when it comes to statistics. I'm comfy applying and analyzing stats to social-science kind of situations and I can use SAS, SPSS, or (...) (23 years ago, 7-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Debate
(...) Gosh. 95%? I didn't know it was so high. It seems like the only way you could really disagree with me that much was to have incredibly middle of the road views. I mostly radical stances but in all "directions." Is that how you would (...) (23 years ago, 6-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Debate
(...) See ya, you'll be missed. (...) I think that good stuff happens here amid the bad. I think that debate happens. I have changed my mind more than once due to discussion on this newsgroup. I place such a premium value on having that happen that (...) (23 years ago, 6-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Naughty Words? (was: Couldn't resist bringing this to your attention(s))
(...) Me either. I suspect it has some relation to peoples' upbringing. As a child, you're taught what's acceptable to say, and what's not. You quickly learn what words will pass, and what words will result in getting a bar of soap inserted in your (...) (23 years ago, 4-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: In this time of conflict, one good news
(...) I heard the statements (1) made in the Angolan parliament last night on the BBC. I really hope that this does turn into a lasting peace. I was amazed to hear that the agreement established in 1994 is what this is all based on. It is astounding (...) (23 years ago, 5-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The value of reading (was: If you could leave any book on Kjeld's nightstand...)
(...) Yes, I agree with all of the above. Nevertheless it's irrelevant. My question really was to Allan, because I honestly didn't understand what it was he didn't understand about what Chris said. (...) Me too. (23 years ago, 3-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Conflict in the Middle East
(...) yeah, it's not a situation that can be remedied by sound bites and bandaids.. To add a separate thread of debate -- one thing that has been bothering me as of late is the 'restitution for atrocities that happened in the past' It was wrong for (...) (23 years ago, 3-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Conflict in the Middle East
(...) The situation in the Middle East is complicated. Both sides have points to be made and complaints that deserve a hearing. But there are stark differences between the two – and these differences paint a clear picture of who wears the black hat (...) (23 years ago, 4-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		volume v quality (was Re: Conflict in the Middle East)
<snip> (...) <snip> Larry, That's correct. I (and others) cured you of your need to engage in name-calling and mudslinging in this group. It's just my view, but I think this group is better because you no longer post here in the manner you once did. (...) (23 years ago, 4-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Conflict in the Middle East
(...) (URL) only shows the Israeli casualties though... I don't know where to find the Palestinian side. Also all these are easy to verify (cnn, ruiters), unlike some of the PA claims. Dan (23 years ago, 3-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Conflict in the Middle East
(...) To be fair, "they" also identify such a distinction, and "them" ain't "us." I understand your point and agree with it in the abstract, but I think it's a mistake to act as if all distinctions are arbitrary, fleeting, or non-existent--even if (...) (23 years ago, 3-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The value of reading (was: If you could leave any book on Kjeld's nightstand...)
(...) You are, of course, absolutely correct to point out the difference between correlation and causation, but it must be recalled that statistical data are routinely used by both sides in all kinds of discussions, so Allan can be forgiven for (...) (23 years ago, 2-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		In this time of conflict, one good news
There has been quite a discussion here about the Middle East situation, and since IMO the situation is not due to be resolved anytime soon, I thought of calling your attention to a bit of hope coming from elsewhere on Earth. Angola's civil war will (...) (23 years ago, 3-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Conflict in the Middle East
(...) And this so-called power gives them what precisely? World attention? It took years for that to happen -- and even now a guy like Arafat is suspected of not having very much real power even with his own people anyway. I remain very unconvinced (...) (23 years ago, 3-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Conflict in the Middle East
Just some super-quick thoughts on this ongoing problem... (...) How can the U.S. send crystal clear messages about aggression when our hands are dirty in Afghanistan? (...) Short-term solutions will not work in this conflict, not that I disagree (...) (23 years ago, 2-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Conflict in the Middle East
(...) This is an interesting point! However, I think that if there is one nations' government which is respected in Israel, it must be that of the US. Israel, being the strongest part in the conflict, should take the initiative and responsibility (...) (23 years ago, 2-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The value of reading (was: If you could leave any book on Kjeld's nightstand...)
(...) Unfortunately, the Discovery Channel (along with its siblings) is very close to the worst source of science information currently available to the mainstream public. That channel has countless programs that present such "frontiers of science" (...) (23 years ago, 30-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The value of reading (was: If you could leave any book on Kjeld's nightstand...)
(...) Upon further reflection (and watching) I can say that certain mainstream "nature" type programs aren't bad, especially the stuff on deep-sea exploration. Some of the military and "justice files" stuff might be good, too, but I can't speak with (...) (23 years ago, 1-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		My closing thoughts on the Free Super Chiefs
Thank you all for your thoughts. When originally posting, I thought that all replies would be positive. A few people would say "fun story", another few tell of a similar incident, etc. However, I didn't assume that we would go into the ethical and (...) (23 years ago, 23-Mar-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Ow. Got stung by a lazy ebay seller.
(...) I read what the seller wrote and have decided to modify my view on the sellers part.... the parts were "NEW" but <darn> quality control issues at LEGO have handicapped the situation..... The seller says he doesn't have time to test out all the (...) (23 years ago, 30-Mar-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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