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		Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
Mike Stanley wrote in message ... (...) I hate to bring up the old religion thing, but it is relevant. One of the greatest difficulties that the average westerner has in accepting the Libertarian idea that people are basically good, is that one of (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Hotel Palestine
(...) I won't dispute that the leadership knew of the hotel, not that it did not want reporters killed. I ask you though, "to avoid making it an explicit target", isn't it implying it can very well be an "implicit" one, whatever that may be? (...) I (...) (22 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:18:59 GMT, Larry Pieniazek uttered the following profundities... (...) I responded before seeing this bit! :o) Actually, in Europe(1) we do a rather crap job of provision of social care. Too many liberals and communists have (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
John Cromer wrote in message ... (...) Thanks for pointing this out. You are right, our general voting public (clear-headed Americans) would rather vote for assholes that lie and say they will make things better than for people who could actually (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Hotel Palestine
(...) (I have reasons to believe there is a Polish contingent over there as well; and I know that the Spanish Navy has ships deployed in the region to assist in the operations. It's a wider gang than you may think at first, even though only 3 of the (...) (22 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: It's scarier if he actually believes his own nonsense.
(...) And did those feet in ancient time Walk upon England's mountains green? And was the holy Lamb of God On England's pleasant pastures seen? Not to that extent. :-) Of course, all the nutcases left Britain (were urged towards the exit) and came (...) (22 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece of the region...
(...) I never saw such news in any part of the media during the period. It should be another case of intentional disinformation, either in your country or mine. Having both Fox News/CNN and NTV/Haber Turk (national news channels), and watching them (...) (22 years ago, 8-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece of the region...
(...) oorr.. perhaps they don't want the US army so close to their border.. hmm? And what exactly is the USA doing in the area? removing a government hostile to us, and replacing it with one friendly. Iran is interesting in doing the same thing. How (...) (22 years ago, 7-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece of the region...
What a great post! A reminder about the debating definition of bias. Personally, I don't believe that any source of information should ever be disqualified or ignored (philosophically/historically - i have neither the time nor wish to read every (...) (22 years ago, 7-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes: [...] (...) Agreed. Unfortunately, with progressively debilitating diseases, the brain is often the first thing to go, and can be gone before you know what's happened or have a chance to do (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Todd Lehman writes: [...] (...) OUCH! You are too much. John C (25 years ago, 2-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece of the region...
(...) this isn't a discussion about economic systems.. but if i recall correctly, Iran is feeding, clothing, and housing most its people.. any other economic information is arguable at best. the Economist, i assume.. i don't nor plan to read it (...) (22 years ago, 7-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece of the region...
(...) the most basic element of democracy is that the people decide how they want their government to work. in 1981, when US backed Saddam invaded their country, people signed up en masse to give their lives for their country. Of course, it is easy (...) (22 years ago, 7-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
(...) his (...) I think that you're ignoring (as I understand it) a basic tenate of Libertarianism. Where does the fault lie? If this person has no savings, is it his own fault, or circumstances beyond his control? More to the immediate, who's fault (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
(...) Somebody just watched "The Trouble with Tribbles"! --Todd (25 years ago, 2-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
(...) Lost a high-paying job and had to take a much lower paying job, yes. Shit happens. I made the best of the situation and moved on. Everyone else can too. (...) Saying "he lost his job and the only jobs available were minimum wage jobs so he (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
(...) It should also be said that charity doesn't automatically mean "free" goods. Habitat for Humanity is very definitely a charity, but they don't give away houses. They ask their benneficiaries to help build the house and in general to show (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
(...) I think the problem here is that you are looking at the libertarian perspective piecemeal. As I understand it from what Larry has said is that since everything is connected, a truly (or at least much more than the one we have now) free market (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
(...) If he gets hit by a truck (this is what the original post was about), he'd be refused medical attention because he has no benefits and can't afford it on his own. Through no fault of his own, society and the government have just condemned him (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: My Concession (for John mostly)
(...) Deja vu all over again. IIRC we had this debate already. I forget what the outcome was... but I don't recall that statement coming out a clear winner. (22 years ago, 31-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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