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Subject:	Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Thu, 1 Jul 1999 15:11:00 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Stanley writes: > Jeff Stembel <Dragonelf1@aol.com> wrote: > > But Unemployment runs out. What if the only people hiring are minimum wage > > jobs? Oh, wait! Larry doesn't believe in the Minimum Wage (I believe he > > said so a couple months ago), does he! I guess "A" will be working in a > > sweat shop for $1.10 an hour! > > Ignoring the minimum wage issue, who cares if the only jobs available > are minimum wage? If he gets hit by a truck (this is what the original post was about), he'd be refused medical attention because he has no benefits and can't afford it on his own. Through no fault of his own, society and the government have just condemned him to death or disability. Since he has no disability protection, chances are he'd get fired from his minimum wage job and be unable to get another one. Oh, well, I guess he's just not trying hard enough, is he? > I've worked for varying amounts in my life. If you work for 35 years > making $30k per year (sorry, that should probably be $40-50k/year if > we're talking a unionized plant job) and you lose your job, for > whatever reason, then you get whatever job you can find. If that > means you have to dig ditches or shovel shit for a year for minimum > wage you do it. Have you ever lost a high-paying job and had to get a minimum-wage one? If so, did you ever get sick during this time? > > Or do people have the "right" to high paying jobs as well? I know > union supporters would say yes, but in the real world, no. No, of course not. But you should not be dismissed as being lazy, nor should you be turned away from neccessary medical attention. Jeff

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		Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
(...) I think the problem here is that you are looking at the libertarian perspective piecemeal. As I understand it from what Larry has said is that since everything is connected, a truly (or at least much more than the one we have now) free market (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
(...) Lost a high-paying job and had to take a much lower paying job, yes. Shit happens. I made the best of the situation and moved on. Everyone else can too. (...) Saying "he lost his job and the only jobs available were minimum wage jobs so he (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
(...) his (...) I think that you're ignoring (as I understand it) a basic tenate of Libertarianism. Where does the fault lie? If this person has no savings, is it his own fault, or circumstances beyond his control? More to the immediate, who's fault (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
(...) Ignoring the minimum wage issue, who cares if the only jobs available are minimum wage? I've worked for varying amounts in my life. If you work for 35 years making $30k per year (sorry, that should probably be $40-50k/year if we're talking a (...) (25 years ago, 30-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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