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		Re: Shrub's Economy (The Gladhand of Death)
(...) This guy is on the right track, he just misses the correct conclusion. Yes the best way to shrink this hulking giant of a government is to starve it via tax cuts. Problem is congressmen on both sides of the aisle are scared to make the large (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		John Dean on "Missing Weapons Of Mass Destruction"
Missing Weapons Of Mass Destruction: Is Lying About The Reason For War An Impeachable Offense? (URL) To put it bluntly, if Bush has taken Congress and the nation into war based on bogus information, he is cooked. Manipulation or deliberate misuse of (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: So we're back to school yard politics...
(...) And I made it thru school totally unscathed... Every teacher in grade school knew how to pronounce the last name 'cause I have 30ish cousins older than me and we all grew up in the same small town... So the regular teachers were fine--it was (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Would be funnier, if it weren't so sadly true
(URL) will not likely be interested and will instead probably decry the site as more liberal kvetching[1]. Dave! [1] Standard Conservative Rhetorical Tactic #5: If your opponent criticizes your viewpoint, agenda, or ideology, engage in an all-out ad (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Shrub's Economy (The Gladhand of Death)
Bush's reckless economics By Robert Kuttner, 6/4/2003 (URL) IT'S EASY to understand why the administration is plowing ahead with one immense tax cut after another. The Bush people oppose social outlays, and the best strategy for cutting public (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Should we be concerned?
(...) Shrub has been AWOL and everything about his "military" career was protected and sanctified by Daddy Shrub himself -- give it a rest. It's all well covered up and with the appropriate gloss of "spin", just like his drug and alcohol record. So, (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Should we be concerned?
(...) I doubt very seriously that the Powers That Be really would have sat on their hands if they knew 3,000 people would die. My point is that they had all the clues and they should have had a better grip on what was about to happen than they did. (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: She's, for me, the best looking former First Lady...
(...) Dubya had a great deal of, well, hatred's not a word that I'd use, but some sort of ridicule from the Left... I think it might be much like the past few elections--b/w Bubba and Bob Dole... By the way, for the record, I would have really liked (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: She's, for me, the best looking former First Lady...
(...) Reagan obviously did a lot of work in those first few minutes in office to effect the release of those hostages. Now time for a nap... (...) I'm not sure I would agree with this. 9/11 gave Bush an extended honeymoon where he could do no wrong. (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: In the name of security and defense
(...) "The truth"??? Are you alleging that the Left has a corner on the truth? Your arguments are all about half truths through character assassination, conspiratorial innuendo, and dishonesty. That you quote the Bible merely adds to the irony which (...) (21 years ago, 3-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: She's, for me, the best looking former First Lady...
(...) You recall incorrectly. They were returned on Reagan's watch and there was lose of life in a botched rescue attempt. (...) Seem fine to me. (...) If you want to talk about bum raps events, I would say that GWB got the granddaddy of them all on (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: She's, for me, the best looking former First Lady...
(...) No age discrimination, please. I am still never going to kick Helen Mirren out of bed given the opportunity. I don't care how old she is -- she's sexy, sophisticated, smart, and obviously knows what she is doing. Bring it, Helen!!! In the end, (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Matrix2
I hope its ok to get off of politics for just a moment. I know I'm probably in the minority here, but did anyone else think that Matrix2 was a big dissapointment? I know better than to expect much from sequels, but I admit to holding out hope on (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: US finds evidence of WMD at last !
Wow, I don't check OTD for a couple of days and I miss an uninterupted anti-Bush love fest. (...) Yes, let us not forget that bastion of truth Michael Moore (end sarcasm), I am not completely sure if he is a deliberate liar, or if he genuinely (...) (21 years ago, 31-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Omen III
(...) ...and all the tainted & subsidised crops that the EU consumers won't buy are being dumped on the developing world... to the ruin of farmers there. It will get worse if the US ever starts labelling GM products (which I think it should). (...) (...) (21 years ago, 30-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Should we be concerned?
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote: <snip> (...) Sorry' it's (URL) a Canadian thing and all... sorry for any confusion Dave K (21 years ago, 2-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Saudi Arabia is starting to "Get it"
(URL) is very encouraging. Perhaps the US and Israel aren't the root of all evil after all.... JOHN (21 years ago, 20-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: She's, for me, the best looking former First Lady...
(...) Yeah, but he told Playboy that he had sinned in his heart. I even think I have that copy of Playboy. But, you cannot really blame people for being human beings -- and human beings tend to be serial monogomists at best. At worse, we all of us (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: She's, for me, the best looking former First Lady...
(...) I actually agree, Carter was a very respectable, honest, moral and good hearted man, he just wasn't a very effective leader. His economic plans were horrible, and his forien policy was even worse. That said, Carter is possibly the greatest (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Should we be concerned?
(...) Exactly. This "with us, or against us" stuff is crazy. Why can't a person be wholly patriotic and still want a moment to figure out what might be the truly correct response to a crisis? (...) This is why I harp on people's apparent partisan (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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