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(...) <SNIP> Transformers still suck. Captain West, LSF Ertbergle (24 years ago, 7-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I can't believe you said that! My jaw has just dropped onto the floor! Are you MAD! Their robots that turn into things! What aspect of Tranformers isn't totally brilliant? Steve (24 years ago, 7-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Transformations *are* cool, big freakin' robots *are* cool, but Hasbro's Transformers *do* suck. So did the cartoon. Anybody know how Spike could sit inside Bumblebee? Or how Soundwave could shoot with Megatron? And just where did Optimus (...) (24 years ago, 7-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Because he turned into a VW Beetle that's how Duhh! (...) Dunno. (...) I assume he left it behind like the toy does. I never actually got to see the cartoon. Steve (24 years ago, 7-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Transformers the cartoon was pretty cool, considering it actually had a plot, which most cartoons in this day and age seem to lack (except for like Batman and Gargoyles). All in all though when it comes to mechs nothing beats Voltron! : ) (...) (24 years ago, 7-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You not watch cartoon, that why you not understand... 1) Spike was human, average size. Bumblebee, the robot, was average human size. When he transforms, suddenly he's bigger than a human. Whatever happened to physics?! Conservation of (...) (24 years ago, 8-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Original Voltron (Lions was cool, till they computer animated it), but the vehicle one was odd. I had the Lion toy (another import) and my friend had the vehicle one and it was hard for us to play with as it had three modes: 1) all fifteen (...) (24 years ago, 8-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, that Super Fire Convoy sure looks a lot more complex and poseable than my Optimus Prime ever was. Why do you say that they suck? ~1st Lieutenant, Fleebnork Division Muffin Head (24 years ago, 8-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not when you look at them from a play value/cost standpoint. You could get an Autobot car for about $8.00 back in the day. conversely, Jetfire (VF-1 fighter) cost about $40. The Alpha I had was around $25-30 and the SDF-1 was a similar price. (...) (24 years ago, 8-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't think that the lower quality of later Transformers causes the earlier ones to suck. I'll agree that the stuff released toward the end of the 1st Generation sucked, however. ~1st Lieutenant, Fleebnork Division Muffin Head (24 years ago, 8-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<Sneep> (...) Dare yo question my carfelnees?!? I ar the mest crewful person I new!! Oops, I bimped my heed agast thee waal agen?!?! Ooch! Aaron West, Captain LSF Ertbergle (24 years ago, 8-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, I dunno, I guess I was getting too much into the spirit of "inciting to riot" since the post was here in .off-topic.debate. You know, can't be here unless you take up an intellectual position stating a contray point. "No, no you came (...) (24 years ago, 8-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) OK, I can agree with that. :^) Gimme some transforming cars and planes, dangit! ~1st Lieutenant, Fleebnork Division Muffin Head (24 years ago, 9-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Lookit me!! I'm a big scary gorilla, and I change into... the form of a man!!! Oooh! That is soooo cool. How can we make more monkey toys? I can't get enough monkey toys!!!! Maybe KB Toys will buy MORE monkey toys!!!!!! Goin' Ape, Capt. West (...) (24 years ago, 9-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) They recently did an 'I love 198x' thing on telly, showing transformers amongst the brat-pack movie clips. They slated Soundwave, asking how this giant robot turned into a little tape player - completely missing the point that the toy was just (...) (24 years ago, 10-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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