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Re: The artist hasn't the courage of his convictions? (was Re: The Censors have won.
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Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:36:51 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
I don't know whether anyone else who was engaged in honest dialog about
whether violence against fantasy characters was useful/appropriate/good fun
or not was asking for change, but *I* never asked for anyone to change
anything. I just said I didn't like it and I wasn't going to let my kids
look at it.

1/2 disagree.  By stating publicly that you didn't like it and weren't going
to let your kids look at it, you *are* asking for change.  (Not a change in
what has already occurred, but a change in the future.)  Otherwise, why bother
to say anything?  What other message could one possibly expect that people
would hear?  Were you not giving people a tidbit of info about yourself and
your family in the hopes that it influences their behavior in the future? --
or at least that they would consider it and allow it to influence their
behavior if they felt that it should?

--Todd



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: The artist hasn't the courage of his convictions? (was Re: The Censors have won.
 
(...) I guess I would sort of agree with Todd, in that when one makes a public statement about how they dislike something, that they hope it will have a an effect. However, this does NOT consitute censorship. To me, this is the way change should be (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: The artist hasn't the courage of his convictions? (was Re: The Censors have won.
 
(...) Fair enough. If you think that my opinion matters to others, that is. I'm not sure that my likes and dislikes ought to be taken into account to the point of restricting the actions of others. ++Lar (24 years ago, 5-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  The artist hasn't the courage of his convictions? (was Re: The Censors have won.
 
(...) My goodness that *does* miss the point. I don't know whether anyone else who was engaged in honest dialog about whether violence against fantasy characters was useful/appropriate/good fun or not was asking for change, but *I* never asked for (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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