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Re: We'll just wave...
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Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:03:42 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:

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   I agree in principle with what you are saying, Dave, but here’s the problem: if you disarm the GP, then only the bad guys will have guns. And they will have them, in addition with the knowledge that whomever they chose to rob will most likely be unarmed.

I think that technology is the answer, not disarming. What if we all carried phasers that merely stunned, but didn’t kill? But until that happens, I kinda like the deterrent aspect of an armed populace.

JOHN

I don’t think it’s an all-or-nothing proposition. I mean, even Canadians own guns! (not me, but I digress)

There are lines that can be drawn--the ones in their own little camps that have the automatic attached to the roll bar in the jeep think there should be no line on the firepower they can own...

(right now I’m having vague recollections of previous o-t.d)

Should this kid have had legal access to the semi-auto .223 he actually had legal access to?

I don’t think so.

Therein lies the discussion.

Where do you draw that line?

And I really believe it’s disingenuous at this to state that ‘making guns illegal will make only illegals have guns’

It’s a logical fallacy. The proof is that countries that have very restrictive access to guns makes it very hard for ‘bad scary people’ to have access to guns.

We can’t eliminate the issue of someone killing someone else--that’ll never happen. However, as your president stated, knowing this, we can’t just say, ‘oh well, since we can’t eliminate it, let’s do nothing...’

That is not an option anymore.

Dave K



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  Re: We'll just wave...
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote: <snippage> (...) I don't think that the issue is automatic vs semi-auto. All of these mass killings would be tragic whether 10 were killed or 28 were killed. (...) Lay off the LSD, Dave! (URL) (...) (...) (12 years ago, 18-Dec-12, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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(...) I agree in principle with what you are saying, Dave, but here's the problem: if you disarm the GP, then only the bad guys will have guns. And they will have them, in addition with the knowledge that whomever they chose to rob will most likely (...) (12 years ago, 17-Dec-12, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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