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Re: We'll just wave...
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Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:12:39 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
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as, again, an opportunity to have a legitimate discussion about guns in
that sociopathic country to the south of us goes right on by.
When?
Seriously, when are you going to put your kid killing toys away?
There are no words for what 27 families are going through today because a
very tiny minority want their ‘security blanket’
Grow up.
Dave K
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Okay, I’ll bite. What would you propose, Dave?
JOHN
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Molly Ivins--
“In truth, there is no rational argument for guns in this society. This is no
longer a frontier nation in which people hunt their own food. It is a
crowded, overwhelmingly urban country in which letting people have access to
guns is a continuing disaster. Those who want guns---whether for target
shooting, hunting or potting rattlesnakes (get a hoe)---should be subject to
the same restrictions placed on gun owners in England---a nation in which
liberty has survived nicely without an armed populace. …
Michael Crichton makes an interesting argument about technology in his
thriller “Jurassic Park.” He points out that power without discipline is
making this society into a wreckage. By the time someone who studies the
martial arts becomes a master---literally able to kill with bare hands---that
person has also undergone years of training and discipline. But any fool can
pick up a gun and kill with it.
“A well-regulated militia” surely implies both long training and long
discipline. That is the least, the very least, that should be required of
those who are permitted to have guns, because a gun is literally the power to
kill. For years, I used to enjoy taunting my gun-nut friends about their
psycho-sexual hang-ups---always in a spirit of good cheer, you understand.
But letting the noisy minority in the National Rifle Association force us to
allow this carnage to continue is just plain insane.”
I’ll start with that, and what the president stated last night at the
memorial service.
Other ‘civilized’ countries, when experiencing mass murder such as this,
enacted greater and more restrictive gun laws and have lived many
years/decades without a repeat performance.
Let me reiterate wht your president stated last night--
“Since I’ve been President, this is the fourth time we have come together to
comfort a grieving community torn apart by a mass shooting. The fourth time
we’ve hugged survivors. The fourth time we’ve consoled the families of
victims. And in between, there have been an endless series of deadly
shootings across the country, almost daily reports of victims, many of them
children, in small towns and big cities all across America -- victims whose
-- much of the time, their only fault was being in the wrong place at the
wrong time. ”
And you don’t think something needs to change in your United States of
America?
Or are we even thinking about the assanine Ann Coulter approach--the answer
to this mass shooting is more guns ‘for the people’.
(and when was the last time she was right about, well, anything?)
Get it together, America. Your wake-up call has been ringing for decades and
you’ve consistently and quite blatantly been ignoring it.
Dave K
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I agree in principle with what you are saying, Dave, but here’s the problem: if
you disarm the GP, then only the bad guys will have guns. And they will have
them, in addition with the knowledge that whomever they chose to rob will most
likely be unarmed.
I think that technology is the answer, not disarming. What if we all carried
phasers that merely stunned, but didn’t kill? But until that happens, I kinda
like the deterrent aspect of an armed populace.
JOHN
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: snip (...) I don't think it's an all-or-nothing proposition. I mean, even Canadians own guns! (not me, but I digress) There are lines that can be drawn--the ones in their own little camps that have the (...) (12 years ago, 17-Dec-12, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Molly Ivins-- "In truth, there is no rational argument for guns in this society. This is no longer a frontier nation in which people hunt their own food. It is a crowded, overwhelmingly urban country in which letting people have access to guns (...) (12 years ago, 17-Dec-12, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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