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Re: Who the devil are we to lecture on 'nucular' non-proliferation? (careful, long rant)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:

  
  
   re: 2nd Amendment

  
   Put the power (nuclear or otherwise) in the hands of the people.

That too. I think the second admendment goes up to personal tanks in applicability...

I know we’ve all discussed this before, and I confess that I don’t have a clear concept of what’s appropriate for whom to possess, but I have I have question about the history of this interpretation.

How did the founding fathers feel about private, individual ownership and use of artillery pieces? Practically speaking, I think that these were the pinnacle of land-portable weapons technology of the day; was ownership permitted to anyone (well, to any white, land-owning male, I guess) who could afford it?

I’d refer you to the Federalist Papers for something a bit more authoriative, but my guess would be no, their cutoff seemed to be “man portable” rather than “portable if you have a whole team of horses”. Before you ask, that DOES rule out “personal tanks” or anything that has a motor to move it around, I’d say.

   On a philosophical note, if the FF could have foreseen the level of man-portable destructive capability that would arise, might they have worded the 2nd differently?

Who, absent a time machine, can say for sure?

   Which is a greater power, in real-world terms: the ability to tax interstate commerce, or the ability to blow up a city?

The former, as it has no check.



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  Re: Who the devil are we to lecture on 'nucular' non-proliferation? (careful, long rant)
 
(...) Interesting (and, I note, consistent with your previously stated views). I wonder if they might have considered relative firepower/destructive potential if they'd known what would eventually be man-portable. That's wonder-if question, as (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: Who the devil are we to lecture on 'nucular' non-proliferation? (careful, long rant)
 
(...) I know we've all discussed this before, and I confess that I don't have a clear concept of what's appropriate for whom to possess, but I have I have question about the history of this interpretation. How did the founding fathers feel about (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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