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| | | (...) Right. "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" Arthur C. Clarke Or something like that. This argument of Dave K's strikes me as a variant of the Designer argument, at least in some ways. (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water? —David Koudys
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| | | | (...) Also in Babylon 5 with the Technomages. :) Love that JMS... So my friend and I were talking the other day about Clarke, Asimov, Chalker, Heinlen, etc... Can anyone name a really good science-fiction author that was born, say, after 1960? I (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | ( (Good SF authors) != (young SF authors) ) ?? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | (...) Not without doing some digging(0). Plus it varies according to taste. Lately I like the "killer B's"...(1) they all are within a "few" years of that mark, as compared to the grand masters you name (whether I'd put Chalker up there is a (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: ( (Good SF authors) != (young SF authors) ) ?? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (snip) So, further, while I was chasing that question, I thought of another favorite of mine, one who hasn't gotten too much press because he hasn't written a lot, so I thought maybe he's young enough to qualify... Steven Gould. He wrote (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: ( (Good SF authors) != (young SF authors) ) ?? —David Koudys
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| | | | | | | | In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> Byron(1). Nice. Dave K 1-Sometimes that disturbs me, that people drop names like that. Here's a writer that probably spent numerous months composing these fantastic poems and I (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: ( (Good SF authors) != (young SF authors) ) ?? —David Koudys
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| | | | | | | (...) Thanks Larry! I did like the ring series by Chalker (though it was a long long time ago (in my teens) so I may be misremembering...) Thanks for the other info as well--I'll finish 'The Teeth and the Tiger' by Clancy and find some of those (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: ( (Good SF authors) != (young SF authors) ) ?? —Kyle McDonald
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| | | | | | | | (...) How about Orson Scott Card. Ender's game, and many other very good (in My opinion anyway) Sci-Fi books. Not too dry, and not too much (but enough) science. -Kyle (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: ( (Good SF authors) != (young SF authors) ) ?? —David Koudys
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| | | | | | | | | (...) My friends like him. My only time with OSC was the novel of "The Abyss" (at one time, my favourite movie, and the book is an excellent adaptation thereof) Thanks for advice. Dave K (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: ( (Good SF authors) != (young SF authors) ) ?? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Born in 1951, I think.(1) (...) Some people (2) really like him. (3) Some people find him a bit too preachy. ++Lar 1 - so does (URL) - me for instance. I usually have a preachyness detector but his mormonness doesn't come through strongly (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: ( (Good SF authors) != (young SF authors) ) ?? —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | | | | (...) My son is reading Ender's Game as I type this (page 200). I started after him and zoomed by him to page 273 (just put it down so he could go read it - he has to have it read for school by Sunday). I'd agree with your analysis. -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: ( (Good SF authors) != (young SF authors) ) ?? —David Laswell
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| | | | | | | | (...) I tried reading one of the Alvin Maker series a while back, and I just could not get into it at all. Aside from that, the only OSC books I've ever touched were in the Ender series. I wouldn't want to say that he's a good sci-fi author in (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: ( (Good SF authors) != (young SF authors) ) ?? —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | (...) Hmm, I'll have to check this out sometime. I just checked out my favorite SF author, CJ Cherryh, and I didn't find a birth date, but she received some kind of honors in 1960 and a degree in 1964 so clearly she was born before 1960. Another (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: ( (Good SF authors) != (young SF authors) ) ?? —Dan Boger
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| | | | | | (...) 1942: (URL) the wikipedia!) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water? —Leonard Hoffman
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| | | | | (...) Jules Verne? I heard this really great quote once where Salvador Dali blames Jules Verne for everyone's death - cuz Jules Verne inspired people to develop other types of technology rather than focus solely on medicine - which if we had, we (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Fun with Calendars —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) I think he meant 1960 C.E., not 1960 by the Assyrian/Babylonian/...brew/Roman calendar or whatever calendar you commies use, Len(in)ny... or is it Le(ninny)?... (...) That would make a great story. Of course stories using JV as a protaganist (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water? —Orion Pobursky
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| | | | | (...) Neal Stephenson (Snow Crash, The Diamond Age. Both in my top 20) almost meets your requirement (b. October 31, 1959) Greg Egan (b. 1961) seem to be fairly well respected (won a Hugo and John W. Campbell Memorial Award). I haven't read anything (...) (20 years ago, 19-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water? —David Laswell
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| | | | | | (...) He's also written/co-written a couple of novels. The only one I've read to date was Neverwhere (also a TV miniseries in the UK), but. (...) He also drove a lot of adults away from reading the Star Wars novels, largely as a result of the two (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water? —David Laswell
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| | | | | | (...) Whoops, forgot to complete that thought. ...but it didn't really strike me as a great example of his work. The ending kinda rolls out in a largely predictable manner. I'd say the most compelling reason to read it is the unusual array of (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water? —David Laswell
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| | | | | (...) Hmm, C.S. Friedman was born in '57, so she's out. But don't let that stop you from reading her work. (...) And J. Gregory Keyes (now going by Greg Keyes), while an excellent fantasy author, has only written sci-fi for SW:NJO and B5 thus far. (...) (20 years ago, 20-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Is lgbt dead in the water? & Is religion dead in the water? —Jennifer Clark
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| | | | "David Koudys" <dkoudys@redeemer.on.ca> wrote in message news:I5uC0L.1JF1@lugnet.com... (...) after (...) Greg Egan - born 1961. One of the best IMHO! (URL) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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