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(...) The fact is that *no* amount of evidence would have prevented a French veto. They are too invested. And, to be honest, I don't blame them; they are looking out for what's best for France. I just wish they'd be honest about it. (...) Then why (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is more offensive to me than openly going for an oil grab -- the fact that you believe these lies. When this is over and we have turned over all of those oil fields to the people of Iraq without western companies like Halliburton (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You know if this really is just about oil, then every American citizen has the right and duty to put a bullet through Bush's head for flagrant misuse of military power. However I doubt that is the case (after all it would have been much easier (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've said before that France is hardly morally clear on this matter, since they're motivated at least in large part by their past financial investment in Iraq, as well as promised contracts for future oil rights. So, to that end, you're (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I second this sentiment absolutely. Specifically, I have the feeling that at least one of the vehicles in our convoy is carrying a 600lb payload of "forbidden" chem weapons, all set to be loaded into a captured Iraqi al-Samoud missile to be (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You are right, and for 2 reasons-- inspectors can be so easily thwarted, and the man is (was?) a liar! Scuds are flying everywhere-- where the hell did they come from? It's all been a big lie. The fact is that Bush was right. (...) That's a (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nope. It will be flown in by black heliocopter. JOHN (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There's rumor that Iraq fired a Scud earlier today. Just a rumor, who knows if true, but if it is, it puts paid to the notion that Iraq had already disarmed, as Scuds are banned. This does not defuse the "inspections would have disarmed (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Speaking of which, are there any Black Hawk helicopters that HAVEN'T crashed? Lately it seems like not a day goes by that we don't hear of one crashing somewhere in the world. Perhaps we should re-examine the design of that fine vehicle. Dave! (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) [If true] It proves he was wrong; Blix would have found them. Everyone said the scenario where he'd use any WOMD was the one where he was attacked! Scott A (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's the colour - pink ones never crash. ;) Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It wasn't Blix's job to *find* them! It was SH's job to simply produce proof that he had destroyed all of the illegal weapons. Blix was merely supposed to verify this. The whole affair was a charade to make the Lefties feel good about (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Even if true, it was working. It made for crap tv, but it was working. Bush could not take the credit, but it was working. Bush's buddies were not getting gov contracts, but it was working. Scott A (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Explain for us exactly how Saddam would prove that he doesn't have banned weapons. Dave! (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Exactly. Hence the entire concept of inspections is flawed... certainly with the number of inspectors that were going to be used. Now, maybe with more inspectors and a systematic examination of every square inch of countryside, it might be (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) We already know he has them. He would show that he has destroyed them. JOHN (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps if you say it enough times, it will magically become true. JOHN (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) [if true]…and now Bush is about to cause a refugee crisis in the region. Can you think of better cover to smuggle proscribed bio-agents [say] out of the country? Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps if you click your heels together three times and say "There's no place like home! There's no place like home!" you will magically be whisked off to a place where the president of the United States at least tries to be Just, and not (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't really want to argue this point overmuch, disliking almost all politicians anyway, but... Such questions should never have been put to the man in the first place. And who doesn't lie about a furtive affair? I expect better of you, (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, I've read a good deal of stuff that points out exactly why it wasn't perjury. Specifically, the Starr-crossed prosecutors were operating according to the definition of "sex" or "sexual relations" (I'm not sure which, at this point) (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Larry's stance at the time, and I'm sure it is now the same, is the obvious. President Clinton should have called them inappropriate questions and simply dismissed it as a crude joke / witch-hunt. He should have stood up for the right by (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) See, John? That's how one properly invokes Dave! RE: Evil--I think, Larry, that your (and my) definition of evil is markedly different from the definition supported by our Appointed Theocrat Lil' Bush. Even Reagan's reference to The Evil (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Is the DPRK evil or not? I missed where you answered this one, Dave! (...) Pin it on the current administration, eh? That's quite the stretch, even for you, Dave! I'm completely happy to place most of the blame for where we are now on the (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I am merely pointing out that it was a matter of greater personal importance than of national importance; consequently, I don't really care about the nature of his answers or evasions. Focus, focus, focus -- on what really matters. I am (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Whoops! Let me clarify: Inasmuch as we have previously agreed that communist nations are evil (as opposed to Dubya's fire-&-brimstone pulpit definition of evil), then I agree that DPRK is evil. (...) Nice usage, once again! (...) I'm not sure, (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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