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    Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again! —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) I'll tell you what... if you want to explain a process, explain how it is that the US has two parties in power which are more similar than they are different, and which do everything they can to ensure that no other party or set of ideas can (...) (22 years ago, 20-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again! —Scott Arthur
     (...) Are you saying that the Democrats would have made the same mistakes as the Republicans over the past 12 months and before? I'm yet to be convinced of that. Bush is governing by paranoia, I doubt AG would have done the same. (...) That is an (...) (22 years ago, 20-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again! —Richard Marchetti
      (...) Who can say? These guys are all ultimately poll-driven centrists -- it's just that the Bushes are also pointedly oil-obsessed, war-gods. (...) Hmmm, this is all very debatable. The lynching isn't widespread or performed without fear of (...) (22 years ago, 20-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword (was Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!) —Scott Arthur
      (...) Sorry, I did not mean to imply life is perfect for these groups - it is not anywhere near it. However, it has improved over the last 25 years in my view. (...) Yes. (...) I agree. I read this powerful quote in a Guardian letter today: "Beware (...) (22 years ago, 20-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword (was Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it aga —Erik Olson
       have you realized this "Caesar" thing is a made-up quote that has been going around for many months? It's like the amusing but fake Nostradamus saying about the "village idiot." -Erik (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword (was Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it aga —Dave Schuler
        (...) Good luck! I did a Google search for that apocryphal Caesar quote and got 1180 hits! It's a well-established pious fraud, as firmly entrenched as the Sarah Brady's "completely disarmed" false citation or Dan Quayle's "Latin America" fictional (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword (was Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it aga —Scott Arthur
        (...) Was Nostradamus able to predict this? ;) Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword (was Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it aga —William R. Ward
       (...) Of course Caesar spoke latin, so it isn't a direct quote. But how do you know it's false? But in any case, I changed my .signature to not have that quote anymore. --Bill. (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword (was Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it aga —Erik Olson
       (...) the evidence has been weighed. Snopes.com and wikipedia.com have both surveyed their experts and as snopes says "come up empty." In the first place, it smelled funny. The quote itself is so narrow-minded and subsitutes emotions for (...) (22 years ago, 24-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword (was Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it aga —Dave Schuler
       (...) Here's the snopes link: (URL) Dave! (22 years ago, 27-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Still a "Funny Girl" —Dave Schuler
      (...) Scott, I think, has accepted that this is a bogus quote, if he ever even believe it in the first place. Sadly, some celebrities are less eager to check their sources: (URL) Dave! (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Still a "Funny Girl" —Richard Marchetti
      (...) -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again! —Bruce Schlickbernd
     (...) We put the Dot.Coms up against the wall! Telephone solicitors are next! Comrade Bruce Glorious Democratic Republic of Socialistic Libertarian Greens Where Everyone is Equal Except for Those of Us Who Drive Really Big German Cars and have T10 (...) (22 years ago, 20-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again! —David Koudys
     (...) Sign me up for that! Darn solicitors--thank you but I already have one more credit card than I need (have a grande total of 1) I don't need any more newspaper subscriptions, I don't need my carpet cleaned, I don't need your magazine! Stop (...) (22 years ago, 20-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again! —David Koudys
     (...) First, it's your *elected* gov't. Due to screwups that people are trying to sweep under the carpet, and others are trying to *not* sweep under the carpet... is a wee bit of a fiasco. If every Florida citizen petitioned to have a revote, (...) (22 years ago, 20-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again! —Christopher L. Weeks
     (...) Except for having our chief executive having been appointed by the Supreme Court. IOW, while every executive before has been elected (whether fairly or not) this one has actually _not_ been properly elected. With a minority (and no plurality) (...) (22 years ago, 22-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again! —Bruce Schlickbernd
     (...) Larry is absolutely right on this. The system is set up to make it difficult for marginal parties to grow. Essentially, if you wish to gain any power, you need to subvert one of the existing parties through infilteration. The question is (...) (22 years ago, 20-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again! —David Koudys
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) <snip> Gerrymandering? Brought up in this thread? Like h-e-double hockey sticks they have, Larry... Do a search in this *entire* thread and show me, up until this post of yours, when (...) (22 years ago, 20-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again! —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) "here" == lugnet.off-topic.debate not merely this particular thread. Our republic is broken, at least to some extent, I gave you 3 examples of why, out of many many many more possible ones. That's completely on topic to where this thread is (...) (22 years ago, 21-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again! —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) see also: (URL) article is about forking and revolutionary change within the open source context, but it applies to all systems... high barriers to entry imply more likeliehood of revolution rather than gradual change... and the duopoly of (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again! —David Koudys
   (...) Yes, we up here have, as of today anyway, 5 'official' parties-- Progressive Conservative Liberal New Democratic Party Bloc Quebecuois Alliance (a la Reform) And what's going to continue to happen up here in Canada is that the Liberals are (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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