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Re: for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword (was Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it aga
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Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:23:44 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, William R. Ward writes:
> "Erik Olson" <erik@olson.pair.com> writes:
> > have you realized this "Caesar" thing is a made-up quote that has been going
> > around for many months? It's like the amusing but fake Nostradamus saying
> > about the "village idiot."
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> Of course Caesar spoke latin, so it isn't a direct quote. But how do
> you know it's false?
the evidence has been weighed.
Snopes.com and wikipedia.com have both surveyed their experts and as snopes
says "come up empty."
In the first place, it smelled funny. The quote itself is so narrow-minded
and subsitutes emotions for definitions. The drums are anachronism at least.
From my reading of diverse translator's notes, there is no equivalent for
this idea of "patriotism" in Latin either. What the quote describes is not
historical--it sounds more like a Xena script.
Historically, Romans lost their freedom because their Senate abdicated.
Autocracy followed paralysation and chaos. A fun way to comprehend this is
to read all the Roman novels of Colleen McCullough. Another more difficult
way is to read Cicero. Both is good.
On Friday, I found three other famous authors in a quotes file with not
dissimilar sentiments. But for popularity, they are shredded wheat to this
Captain Crunch.
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