To LUGNET HomepageTo LUGNET News HomepageTo LUGNET Guide Homepage
 Help on Searching
 
Post new message to lugnet.off-topic.debateOpen lugnet.off-topic.debate in your NNTP NewsreaderTo LUGNET News Traffic PageSign In (Members)
 Off-Topic / Debate / 17639
17638  |  17640
Subject: 
for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword (was Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!)
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Fri, 20 Sep 2002 13:27:20 GMT
Viewed: 
1211 times
  
That is an astute observation. However, you must remember that whist you may
feel that your paper freedoms have been lessened over the past quarter
century; females and minority groups have gained real freedom in many areas.

Hmmm, this is all very debatable.

Sorry, I did not mean to imply life is perfect for these groups - it is not
anywhere near it. However, it has improved over the last 25 years in my view.


What ever happened to all that stuff the "internet revolution" promised?

Is that a joke?

Yes.

this war stuff is
just to keep everyone's mind off how they are being fleeced by both the
govt. and wall street.

I agree.

I read this powerful quote in a Guardian letter today:

"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry
into a patriotic fervour, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It
both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of
war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind
has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the
citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by
patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so.
How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar."

So today a Guardian reader compared Bush Jr to Julius Caesar. Yesterday the
German Foreign minister compared Bush's actions to Hitler’s. I wonder what
tomorrow will bring?

Scott A



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword (was Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it aga
 
have you realized this "Caesar" thing is a made-up quote that has been going around for many months? It's like the amusing but fake Nostradamus saying about the "village idiot." -Erik (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Still a "Funny Girl"
 
(...) Scott, I think, has accepted that this is a bogus quote, if he ever even believe it in the first place. Sadly, some celebrities are less eager to check their sources: (URL) Dave! (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

Message is in Reply To:
  Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
(...) Who can say? These guys are all ultimately poll-driven centrists -- it's just that the Bushes are also pointedly oil-obsessed, war-gods. (...) Hmmm, this is all very debatable. The lynching isn't widespread or performed without fear of (...) (22 years ago, 20-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

220 Messages in This Thread:
(Inline display suppressed due to large size. Click Dots below to view.)
Entire Thread on One Page:
Nested:  All | Brief | Compact | Dots
Linear:  All | Brief | Compact

This Message and its Replies on One Page:
Nested:  All | Brief | Compact | Dots
Linear:  All | Brief | Compact
    

Custom Search

©2005 LUGNET. All rights reserved. - hosted by steinbruch.info GbR