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Re: Fan Thank You Letter
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Thu, 20 Jun 2002 17:26:14 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Brown writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Brown writes:
> 
> <snippage>
> 
> > Doesn't in any way, shape or form stop the rampant stupidity of the 'sueing
> > generation'
> > 
> > 'I can't wait for something to happen to me where I can sue somebody!'
> > 
> > I hear it, you, obviously have heard it, it's not an occasional circumstance.
> > 
> > It seems lately that I can't go through a commercial break on television
> > without having some firm 'have you been injured... call me...'
> > 
> > I have been injured.  I have fallen out of a tree and broke my arm.  I have
> > been burned by an exhaust pipe on a semi.  I was stung by 150 bees and was
> > in the hosptial for the better part of the day.  So many things, some of
> > which I wasn't even being stupid.  Life happens.  Not only was Larry
> > perfectly in his rights to sue his insurance company, he was morally
> > obligated to sue the insurance company.  Me sueing for the things I
> > mentioned above, or Larry sueing the theme park, while in our 'legal' right
> > to do so, is so not morally, ethically, or any way shape or form, right to
> > do so.  Just 'cause you have the ability to do something does not mean you
> > *must* do something.  My dad taught me years ago that there is no such thing
> > as a free ride.  People are always looking for free rides.  Society, in
> > general, loves the concept, so much so that, apart from me and her parents,
> > most other people that hear what happened to my girlfriend, immediately say
> > after 'how are you doing', is 'you should sue'.
> > 
> > Prevalent.
> > 
> > Stupid.
> 
> Hmm.  I agree that there is an apparant sue-happy societal trend.  I'm not
> sure that it's an *actual* trend, or just an apparant one.  I do know that
> every single "stupid suit" case I've heard about **and looked into** turned
> out to be either an urban legend, or more than meets the eye (like the McD
> coffee), or overturned.  I will admit I've certainly heard about more than I
> care to investigate, though.
> 
> Most of that is aside from what I meant to say though, which is:  I'm fairly
> certain that the cost to society of allowing stupid lawsuits to occur is
> lower than the cost to society of barring or limited civil access to due
> process.
> 
> > 'Cause we're just shooting ourselves in the foot.  We all pay for it in the
> > end.  The money has to come from somewhere.
> 
> I agree.  But I'd rather pay (in a higher cost to maintain standard of
> living) to allow people to sue for stupid things, than pay (in a compromise
> of my freedom and right to due process) by not being able to sue for
> something legitimate.
> 
> I haven't done any emprical research or anything; my "cost to society" thing
> above is an opinion not a fact, but there ya go.  I'd rather let stupid
> people go to court than close the court system, even a little bit.(1)
> 
> 
> James
> 
> 1: I realize the court system is already partially closed, in many ways, but
> I'm a firm believer in fighting the slippery slope.

I concur wholeheartedly.  In no way shape or form do I want to pass laws
and/or regulations that limit access to the justice system.  I want people
to grow up, suck it up, realize that sh*t happens, and that, no matter how
you cut it, life goes on.  There is no free lunch--stop looking for one.
This is an individual/moral/ethical issue, not a law changing issue.

Dave
-who may or may not be part of the worship committee of Dave!



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(...) We may just be off agreeing with each other at the top of our lungs... But anyway I DO support laws that change how tort works in the US... the change I want to see is that if a lawsuit IS found to be frivolous there is some financial (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Fan Thank You Letter
 
(...) <snippage> (...) Hmm. I agree that there is an apparant sue-happy societal trend. I'm not sure that it's an *actual* trend, or just an apparant one. I do know that every single "stupid suit" case I've heard about **and looked into** turned out (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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