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Re: Fan Thank You Letter
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Thu, 20 Jun 2002 17:26:14 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Brown writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Brown writes:

<snippage>

Doesn't in any way, shape or form stop the rampant stupidity of the 'sueing
generation'

'I can't wait for something to happen to me where I can sue somebody!'

I hear it, you, obviously have heard it, it's not an occasional circumstance.

It seems lately that I can't go through a commercial break on television
without having some firm 'have you been injured... call me...'

I have been injured.  I have fallen out of a tree and broke my arm.  I have
been burned by an exhaust pipe on a semi.  I was stung by 150 bees and was
in the hosptial for the better part of the day.  So many things, some of
which I wasn't even being stupid.  Life happens.  Not only was Larry
perfectly in his rights to sue his insurance company, he was morally
obligated to sue the insurance company.  Me sueing for the things I
mentioned above, or Larry sueing the theme park, while in our 'legal' right
to do so, is so not morally, ethically, or any way shape or form, right to
do so.  Just 'cause you have the ability to do something does not mean you
*must* do something.  My dad taught me years ago that there is no such thing
as a free ride.  People are always looking for free rides.  Society, in
general, loves the concept, so much so that, apart from me and her parents,
most other people that hear what happened to my girlfriend, immediately say
after 'how are you doing', is 'you should sue'.

Prevalent.

Stupid.

Hmm.  I agree that there is an apparant sue-happy societal trend.  I'm not
sure that it's an *actual* trend, or just an apparant one.  I do know that
every single "stupid suit" case I've heard about **and looked into** turned
out to be either an urban legend, or more than meets the eye (like the McD
coffee), or overturned.  I will admit I've certainly heard about more than I
care to investigate, though.

Most of that is aside from what I meant to say though, which is:  I'm fairly
certain that the cost to society of allowing stupid lawsuits to occur is
lower than the cost to society of barring or limited civil access to due
process.

'Cause we're just shooting ourselves in the foot.  We all pay for it in the
end.  The money has to come from somewhere.

I agree.  But I'd rather pay (in a higher cost to maintain standard of
living) to allow people to sue for stupid things, than pay (in a compromise
of my freedom and right to due process) by not being able to sue for
something legitimate.

I haven't done any emprical research or anything; my "cost to society" thing
above is an opinion not a fact, but there ya go.  I'd rather let stupid
people go to court than close the court system, even a little bit.(1)


James

1: I realize the court system is already partially closed, in many ways, but
I'm a firm believer in fighting the slippery slope.

I concur wholeheartedly.  In no way shape or form do I want to pass laws
and/or regulations that limit access to the justice system.  I want people
to grow up, suck it up, realize that sh*t happens, and that, no matter how
you cut it, life goes on.  There is no free lunch--stop looking for one.
This is an individual/moral/ethical issue, not a law changing issue.

Dave
-who may or may not be part of the worship committee of Dave!



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  Re: Fan Thank You Letter
 
(...) We may just be off agreeing with each other at the top of our lungs... But anyway I DO support laws that change how tort works in the US... the change I want to see is that if a lawsuit IS found to be frivolous there is some financial (...) (22 years ago, 20-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Fan Thank You Letter
 
(...) <snippage> (...) Hmm. I agree that there is an apparant sue-happy societal trend. I'm not sure that it's an *actual* trend, or just an apparant one. I do know that every single "stupid suit" case I've heard about **and looked into** turned out (...) (22 years ago, 20-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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