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Subject:	Re: If you oppose drug legalization, you support terrorism!
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Wed, 6 Feb 2002 16:50:14 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes: > > Note that I'm speaking as someone who's experience of recreational drugs is > > limited to caffeine, alcohol & grass (which I haven't used for >10 years). > > They all make you feel good for a short while, but I'm convinced they all > > have bad long-term effects. As you say, that doesn't mean they should be > > illegal though. > > I think that each of those chemicals has bad long (and short) term effects > when used to excess. Medicine pretty much says that alchol in fair > moderation is better to have than to be without. Are you sure about that bit? I've heard, for instance, that two glasses of red wine per week can be heart-beneficial, but that isn't the same as a correlation between alcohol consumption and benefit; there are plenty of other components in red wine. If you're referring to other data, I'd be interested to read them. > Why assume the opposite for marijuana, caffeine, or even cocaine? It's dangerous to assume risk or safety of one substance based on another (maybe a little bit of ingested plutonium or would be good for us?) but your point isn't a bad one. In any case, I don't think that medicine assumes the danger of consuming small amounts of these substances, since they've basically been demonstrated to be either helpful or at least non-harmful. The issue, at least for cocaine, might be of the danger of imprecise self-medication--barring a pre-existing condition, it's pretty hard to OD on pot or No-Doz, but cocaine is a trifle more risky. > Heavy pot smokers run the risk of damaging their lungs, so why not take THC > orally? Caffeine -- and even amphetamines, have a valid role as temporary > stimulants. My mom attributes her success in college (with a job and little > boy) to her addiction to speed for a semester. My boy Philp Dick wrote and sold many novels while zonked on speed, chased with milkshakes. Given the right circumstances and personality type, I don't doubt certain self-medications can be quite positive! Dave!

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		Re: If you oppose drug legalization, you support terrorism! (the stigma)
What exactly is the harm in legalizing narcotics? Some people will certainly abuse them, regardless of the law. Some people will also die from them. But people die from all manner of things daily, so why should narcotics be considered some (...) (23 years ago, 6-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: If you oppose drug legalization, you support terrorism!
(...) Maybe I got it wrong. I know about the red wine thing, but I also remember the frequency of intake being greater, so maybe I'm just mixed up. I thought it was a glass per day or something. But I thought there was some greater effect attributed (...) (23 years ago, 7-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Healthy Alcohol (was: If you oppose drug legalization, you support terrorism!)
(...) I meant to get back to this before now, but here goes: (URL) that for men, up to two "drinks" per day without regard to source of alcohol is a health benefit. They say that the red wine this was once believed, but is no more, and that it's (...) (22 years ago, 6-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: If you oppose drug legalization, you support terrorism!
(...) Wow! How much do cigarettes cost? Isn't that like what it would cost to have three lit simultaneously, 24 hours per day? I suspect that they had deeper problems of which smoking and arguing were merely symptoms. It is a shame to see any family (...) (23 years ago, 6-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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