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(...) Your arguement makes no sense. If Jon were a Brickshelf Admin, do you honestly think he'd post a message like he did? Of course not! He'd just go ahead and ban them, or at least discuss it privately with the other Brickshelf Admin(s). (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why? Because he does not like them? Why should these lego items be banned from a lego pic hosting service? Are they lego related - yes! He simply wants them banned because *he* does not like them! Is that mature? And as far as other options (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) He is well within his rights to ask for a ban on something he dislikes. Unlike many calls-for-bans, however, he actually has valid points. (...) Well, because they are barely related, and certainly don't add anything to the community; in Jon's (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That is your right to think he has valid points, but that is not the point. (...) No, because children would see it - your example is a very poor one. These are as lego-related as the cad images. AFAIK there is not a way to do this in mclad or (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ah, I see. Validity doesn't enter into it when they have an opinion other than yours. Thanks for clearing that up. (...) It isn't a poor example, just an extreme one. (...) No they aren't. CAD and rendered images are used to show off models (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't see how these images are abuse. The TOS only requires that images be related to LEGO products or be of general interest to the LEGO community. Unless one feels that Bionicle Zone is not part of the "LEGO community" I would think that (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My reasons for feeling they are abuse is due to the drowning out of content I, and other fans I speak to on a regular basis, am interested in, the bandwidth issues, and their general appearance. Frankly, I think they're ugly. I wouldn't (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) 12 year old BZ member: "This avatar I'm uploading takes up very little space, so it must be OK" Realistically, I don't think it's possible to come up with a guideline which allows the eg andersson and not eg (URL) I'd be disappointed to see (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Your felling they are abuse is because you do not like them, and they take up space for items you do like. Just so happens that there are many of these items you do not like. But they are lego related, like it or not - they are lego related (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A small files that is loaded over and over again uses MUCH more bandwidth than a large image loaded a few times. (...) There you go, you got a guidline. :) Jeff (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"tom" <tinosanto@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:GpJI02.2Iu@lugnet.com... (...) generate (...) Storing a file on a server takes up no bandwidth [1]. Accessing that file through the internet remotely does. Chat avatars are accessed much more than (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And you have stats on what is being accessed how often? What takes more bandwith... a 3kb file being accesed 25 times on a 100+kb file being accessed two times? tom (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) 3kb files on a high traffic board such as that, probably get 100's of hits (each) EASILY. Whereas the 100k files are probably seen 5 times in the same timespan. Not to mention those 100k files eventually don't get seen ever again once everyone (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes. I do dislike them. I dislike a number of other things, too, but I'm not calling for bans on them. Why? I don't think they are abuses. The basis for every complaint has been becausse of disliking something. Anyway, who are you to determine (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snip old convo> (...) Never said you could not ask for this ban. Please point me to where I did say that. (...) And I understand that. (...) lol, maybe not in that line but its what you are saying. (...) I agree with you 100% (...) Yes it does, go (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Of course many of the repeat viewings will be satisfied from cache and will take very little Brickshelf bandwidth (some is still used to check to see if the file has changed). I'm afraid we will have to let Kevin publish some stats on (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Inosanto writes: <snip> (...) Obviously, you don't. Have your own server host these erroneous bits of drivel if you do. (...) I don't think Jeff has to be told what he was saying, he's very competent. (...) This, (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I still don't see how they are abuse (now if a single individual had uploaded say 1000 [or even 10] avatars each in their own folder so that they dominated the recent updates pages, that might be abuse). To be honest, I find the pages (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think it is abuse because it seems like they're always some new ones, usually in the same folders or by the same people, they are of no interest to *anyone* I know browsing the recent page, and they are not showcasing models or ideas or Lego (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I missed the image. Was it a la 'American Beauty' ? Then you are right, that is more interesting. - Kyle (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snippage of old convos> (...) First of all, bandwidth is not your concern. No matter how you spin it, bandwith is not your concern. And that is not how this starterd, it started. This started because Jon thought they were ugly and was tired of (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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